WARNING SKS prices will go up in 2017

VinnyQC said:
An RPAL is 40$.

Supply is not dwindling, it's just moved from a container in Vladivostok to a safe in Coal Harbor or Nanaimo. The people who bought crates of them aren't taking their 10 or 20 SKS with them when lights will turn off, these rifles will hit the market one day or another. And if the supply of surplus ammos has stopped or even just slowed down by then, all bets are off as to how low the price is going.

Just read this thread. Poor westrifle has been prophecising the end of the cheap SKS, meanwhile bitcoin and pot stocks are exploding.
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Not sure where you are going with that vinny, but who knows what will happen, people don't want rpal's for a number of reasons, they may not want the polititians to know that they own 3 or 10 firearms, registered firearms are only allowed at your range or ho etc.etc. If there is less of a certain ammo, the price usually goes up,, unless you meant the sks prices will go down with lack of ammo, that could happen. But hasn't with most milsurp!
Wanstalls sale is done, sold out, said they were picking through a couple hundred sks so I guess that means they sold over 200 sks in a Day! Wow, well, at that price I can see why!
I didn't really buy as an investment, sort of collecting, but getting tired of that, too many guys saying everything is not what it says,, now that will drop prices quickly for colllectors! I will sell most of mine off slowly and keep a few nice ones for the grandkids!
 
bobdbldr said:
Not sure where you are going with that vinny, but who knows what will happen, people don't want rpal's for a number of reasons, they may not want the polititians to know that they own 3 or 10 firearms, registered firearms are only allowed at your range or ho etc.etc. If there is less of a certain ammo, the price usually goes up,, unless you meant the sks prices will go down with lack of ammo, that could happen. But hasn't with most milsurp!
Wanstalls sale is done, sold out, said they were picking through a couple hundred sks so I guess that means they sold over 200 sks in a Day! Wow, well, at that price I can see why!
I didn't really buy as an investment, sort of collecting, but getting tired of that, too many guys saying everything is not what it says,, now that will drop prices quickly for colllectors! I will sell most of mine off slowly and keep a few nice ones for the grandkids!
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Hmm, you don't need to register your NR firearms if you have an RPAL (actually, you can't!). There is literally 0 downside to an RPAL vs a NRPAL, other than paying 40$ and one class that's roughly the same as for NR. My point is that the price of a SKS will never be higher than the price of an entry-level AR15. They're not the same, but if tomorrow SKS ended up selling for 800$, everyone who shoots them at a range would sell them to get a cheap AR, and that would be thousands of units for sale.

At this point I believe everyone who wants an SKS has one. Or ten. And at some point, these people will sell them. It might be because they need the money, to clear some room in the safe, or maybe when they'll die, but at some point those rifles are going to hit the market. The only ones that won't are the rifles that have been completely destroyed, and that's not a lot, firearms are essentially forever if well cared for. Even the barely functionnal, corroded ones will be advertised as "barely used", so that will make a lot of units on the market. Not only that, but they keep coming and coming. Between russia and china, the supply doesn't seem to dry up. It's always the last batch, until the next last batch.

Not only that, but the one reason to get a SKS is price. People buy them because they're cheap. Inexpensive. So if the price rise, they'll need a new sale pitch. And it's hard to come up with something for a bbq-painted 3-4moa firearm with pinned internal magazine. They're cheap to shoot surplus ammos, but the supply of surplus ammos can dry up, it actually has started to, so how do you make a sales pitch for a gun who's main sale argument is low price if ammos keep getting more and more expensive?

So, yeah, the price of SKS might go up a bit, and maybe it will, but there's a lot of market forces against that. According to westrifle it was supposed to explode in 2017 (295$ - 325$ is what he said), yet in the last month, 3 retailers had sales for SKS around 200-230$, and the non-sale price is 260$ shipped. Just saying the end of the world isn't near.
 
Haha, we are misunderstanding one another! That's what I meant, some folks buy sks to have a nice semi auto and not have to register it like an AR plus the freedom of where you are allowed to shoot it! It will not be months for the prices to go up but years. I guess rifles are an ok investment as they wont likely drop in price but I buy for the fun of shooting and these milsurp, for the history and coolness too!
 
VinnyQC said:
Hmm, you don't need to register your NR firearms if you have an RPAL (actually, you can't!). There is literally 0 downside to an RPAL vs a NRPAL, other than paying 40$ and one class that's roughly the same as for NR. My point is that the price of a SKS will never be higher than the price of an entry-level AR15. They're not the same, but if tomorrow SKS ended up selling for 800$, everyone who shoots them at a range would sell them to get a cheap AR, and that would be thousands of units for sale.

At this point I believe everyone who wants an SKS has one. Or ten. And at some point, these people will sell them. It might be because they need the money, to clear some room in the safe, or maybe when they'll die, but at some point those rifles are going to hit the market. The only ones that won't are the rifles that have been completely destroyed, and that's not a lot, firearms are essentially forever if well cared for. Even the barely functionnal, corroded ones will be advertised as "barely used", so that will make a lot of units on the market. Not only that, but they keep coming and coming. Between russia and china, the supply doesn't seem to dry up. It's always the last batch, until the next last batch.

Not only that, but the one reason to get a SKS is price. People buy them because they're cheap. Inexpensive. So if the price rise, they'll need a new sale pitch. And it's hard to come up with something for a bbq-painted 3-4moa firearm with pinned internal magazine. They're cheap to shoot surplus ammos, but the supply of surplus ammos can dry up, it actually has started to, so how do you make a sales pitch for a gun who's main sale argument is low price if ammos keep getting more and more expensive?

So, yeah, the price of SKS might go up a bit, and maybe it will, but there's a lot of market forces against that. According to westrifle it was supposed to explode in 2017 (295$ - 325$ is what he said), yet in the last month, 3 retailers had sales for SKS around 200-230$, and the non-sale price is 260$ shipped. Just saying the end of the world isn't near.
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I agree with this an will add that there are all sorts of new NR rifles hitting the market too. Sure, they aren't as cheap as an SKS but if the SKS price climbs to $500 or more, then there are other options that start getting more attractive. And there are lots of PCC in 9mm out there. 9mm ammo is almost as cheap as x39 ammo these days, and as most SKS rifles tend to be used as "fun guns" and don't get shot much past 100m, there is yet another option.

But as you say, most importantly, there are tens (hundreds?) of thousands of SKS rifles out there. You can pick one up any day for a decent price.
 
We gotta do like Trump and make nice with the Russians, then you will see some really cherry sks, svt40 etc. Still, for $210. Shipped, they sold over 200 in a few hours, I think demand is still there if the price is right, and you get a refurbished to mil spec semi auto rifle with a bayo, that fires a modern round that is still in full production! Only time will tell but nothing will go up over night, it takes years usually for surplus rifles to go up much!
 
bobdbldr said:
We gotta do like Trump and make nice with the Russians, then you will see some really cherry sks, svt40 etc. Still, for $210. Shipped, they sold over 200 in a few hours, I think demand is still there if the price is right, and you get a refurbished to mil spec semi auto rifle with a bayo, that fires a modern round that is still in full production! Only time will tell but nothing will go up over night, it takes years usually for surplus rifles to go up much!
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I suspect a lot of those 200 were sold to people who alread had one or multiple SKS. Some might still be in cosmoline in 10 years. That's really just moving them from one big storage to multiple small safes.
 
Yep, likely, good thing is, they can buy 10 of these and do what they want with them and still only cost as much as a mid range AR-15, so they aren't out much money and will likely be able to sell them for the same price as they bought them for in ten years,,,maybe more!
 
Prices may not have gone up, but you can't buy non issued or as new SKS rifles outside of the EE.
And you sure can't buy this type of quality for $200 anymore.
I bought 4 or 5 all matched as new or non issued gold bayo SKS for around $200. You just can't do that today.
And all the $200 SVT's I bought are sure worth more today.
 
Wow just reading all of this messages took some time. We were away at the shot show and I missed you guys.
Where did you see cheap Russian SKS nowadays. I see sks at the cheapest price 239.00. Similar to what we have online is 399.00 this is what other people call super grade.
Again I never said or promoted to buy from our website. This is what you guys do not understand. I have no problems selling my SKS. I was warning the public that prices will go up and they did. Call any firearms store and ask for price of Russian sks in a good condition without "made in Russia" stamp under the gas tube.
Prices went up and everyone knows it
 
westrifle_sks said:
Wow just reading all of this messages took some time. We were away at the shot show and I missed you guys.
Where did you see cheap Russian SKS nowadays. I see sks at the cheapest price 239.00. Similar to what we have online is 399.00 this is what other people call super grade.
Again I never said or promoted to buy from our website. This is what you guys do not understand. I have no problems selling my SKS. I was warning the public that prices will go up and they did. Call any firearms store and ask for price of Russian sks in a good condition without "made in Russia" stamp under the gas tube.
Prices went up and everyone knows it
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I've been reading a ton about the SKS recently, and was wondering what the Made in Russia, stamped barrel means? I couldn't find anywhere online that discussed it.
 
Ayeso said:
I've been reading a ton about the SKS recently, and was wondering what the Made in Russia, stamped barrel means? I couldn't find anywhere online that discussed it.
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Some SKS are russian, some are chinese. Some are refurbished, some have never been issued, some have been produced for the civilian market. Some stocks are made of laminated wood and some are made of hard wood. They also have a production date, kind of like wine has a milesim. What westrifle seems to imply is that the best SKS, which should sell for more, are the russian SKS that aren't stamped "made in russia". Others will tell you that Chinese are better. Some have production years they prefer. There might very be more pedantry about SKS than there is about wine, but if you ask either wine or SKS "connaisseurs", they'll tell you it's absolutely not pedantry, it's totally reasonnable to pay twice the price to avoid russian marking or a better year on a chateau margaux.

There are as many opinions as there are SKS, and honestly I believe each of them is unique, and the price you'll pay is almost non indicative of how good a shooter the rifle is. A more expensive SKS will probably look better (no/less rust, less nicks and nacks on the stock, etc...), but in reality you could get a great shooter for 200$ and a PoS for 400$, or the complete opposite. That's why you can see 2 perfectly reasonnable persons with experience argue that russian are better than chinese SKS, or the opposite: one has shot a good russian and a bad chinese, the other has shot the opposite.

In the end the best SKS won't exactly shoot that well, and the worst (but functionnal) will still shoot ok.
 
You can't discuss this price issue without considering the quality of the guns now available.
Sure you can find an SKS for under $300...but they are NOT the same quality you would have gotten for around $200 a few years ago.
Recently, another thread here on CGN was filled with angry buyers who jumped on an SKS sale price, and (some) received pretty beat up guns.

BTW, over the years I have purchased a Mosin, an SVT40 and an SKS from Westrifle, and they are all beauties.
 
VinnyQC said:
Some SKS are russian, some are chinese. Some are refurbished, some have never been issued, some have been produced for the civilian market. Some stocks are made of laminated wood and some are made of hard wood. They also have a production date, kind of like wine has a milesim. What westrifle seems to imply is that the best SKS, which should sell for more, are the russian SKS that aren't stamped "made in russia". Others will tell you that Chinese are better. Some have production years they prefer. There might very be more pedantry about SKS than there is about wine, but if you ask either wine or SKS "connaisseurs", they'll tell you it's absolutely not pedantry, it's totally reasonnable to pay twice the price to avoid russian marking or a better year on a chateau margaux.

There are as many opinions as there are SKS, and honestly I believe each of them is unique, and the price you'll pay is almost non indicative of how good a shooter the rifle is. A more expensive SKS will probably look better (no/less rust, less nicks and nacks on the stock, etc...), but in reality you could get a great shooter for 200$ and a PoS for 400$, or the complete opposite. That's why you can see 2 perfectly reasonnable persons with experience argue that russian are better than chinese SKS, or the opposite: one has shot a good russian and a bad chinese, the other has shot the opposite.

In the end the best SKS won't exactly shoot that well, and the worst (but functionnal) will still shoot ok.
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Thanks for the insight and thats what I figured. I was mostly curious what those markings meant. Ive narrowed down my SKS to exactly what it is, but what does that marking mean Does it mean it was refurbed? Or is it just an export stamp?
 
Ayeso said:
Thanks for the insight and thats what I figured. I was mostly curious what those markings meant. Ive narrowed down my SKS to exactly what it is, but what does that marking mean Does it mean it was refurbed? Or is it just an export stamp?
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Yes,,,,, it was refurbed into a sporting rifle by stamping it with those markings, just a red tape thing to make it legal to export! Just marked up a nice rifle is all they really did!
 
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