Was Bassett mount, NOW Scope shoot results

Well,..heres the one I ended up with.
It utilizes the dovetail. The replacement part where the stripper guide went is a VERY snug fit neeting a mallet to get it into place. Replaced the roll pin, and tightened up the 2 (dovetail piece) set screws with red loctite. The 2 side screws are also loctited in.
Its a "see through" and does allow me to use the peep sight if I wish

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I know theres gonna be some bashing, as the mount is aluminum, (but its a very beefy mount, not flimsey at all.) But I got it at Milarm here in Edm. Before I bought it I was allowed to test fit it on my gun. Gord (counterguy) showed me what process of steps to take. The actual install turned out to be very easy. I did go to Princess Auto and buy a punch set and a box of various sized roll pins (as per Hungry's advice :D)

The punch made short work of the original roll pin and it was out in about 5 secs. I'd have to say the hardest part was installing the dovetail replacement part as it was a VERY snug fit which is obviously a good thing. Once that was in the actual mount went on by tightening the slotted/knurled screw first. Then the secondary mount was done by first tightening up the *large* hollow stud that threads through the mount to butt up against the dovetail guide. When thats done, the 3/4" locknut (just visible under the secondary knurled knob) is tightened to prevent that hollow stud from backing out. Then the actual knurled screw fits through the hollow stud and threads into the dovetailed piece attached to the reciever. All screws were *red* loctited.

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hey alum is fine, i got the sadlak aluminum mount, so far so good

what problems should one be encountering with aluminum anyway? I talked to Mike Sadlak over e-mail about the temperature here's what he had to say:
Hi Charles


Thank you for your past business and continued interest in our products.

Yes I think the aluminum will hold up fine. The alloy is an aircraft quality heat-treated 6061. So if they use it on aircraft parts then the cold shouldn't effect it.

It certainly won't crack although the expansion of alum for the mount and scope vs the steel receiver might have a little effect but you would have to determine that.

My best guess at a reasonable temp range would be about 40 degrees F with regards to minimum expansion effects

Best Regards,

Mike Sadlak
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It would be the different coeffecients of thermal expansion that would concern me...different materials expanding and contracting at different rates might loosen the mount over time.

Not a concern for most users, IMO. Really only if you have paranoid survivalist fantasies of using your rifle in a post-apocalyptic world (like me.)
 
let's face it, there is no be all end all mount for the m14. truth be told the first m14s i owned ..... and the pre C68 trw m14 i owned years ago, both wore springfied gen II scope mounts. The ones often copied and sold in aluminum. I have heard many good thing from owners of the bassett product, arms, smith ent and the sadlak aluminum and guys that do shoot quite a bit that are happy with thier marstar deluxe see thru rail. So in the end, there are several viable choices, depending on how much time you spend throwing rounds down range.

But... if i was relying on my optic mount for SHTF events or competitions like tac rifle or service rifle...... I would fork out the cash for a higher end mount just for piece of mind. Just my 2 cents on the whole scope mount thing
 
45ACPKING let's face it, there is no be all end all mount for the m14.

So in the end, there are several viable choices, depending on how much time you spend throwing rounds down range.

But... if i was relying on my optic mount for SHTF events or competitions like tac rifle or service rifle...... I would fork out the cash for a higher end mount just for piece of mind. Just my 2 cents on the whole scope mount thing
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I agree 100% ACP. If I was going to hurl 100s of rounds every time I went to the range, or entered competions every few months...then I'd probably opt for the more expensive steel mount.
But I've always said this was to be an inexpensive big game gun. If I put a dozen or so rounds through it in a season, that'll be plenty.
We'll see what happens at the range.
 
Heres the final bit of construction. A bushnell Trophy 3-9x40 with B-Square "low" rings. On an aluminum 3 point mount. Sadly I will probably have to go with a cheek piece (which I wanted to avoid) as the scopes a tad to high to be comfortable. I can still easily see through the scope, but its just not quite a proper hold.
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Here is the results of scoping my M-14...
I'm not saying anything except that I'll go back out again when the weather is more spring like and when that Marstar "Op Rod Spring Guide" is installed.
100 yrds, bench rested, American Eagle 150gr FMJ


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OUCH!!!
Had you shot it before it was scoped? How did it group then?
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The last time shooting it was over the peep sights at Hungry's clinic where it shot a 4 - 5 inch group at 50 yrds freehand shooting.

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Something is odd there. That mount should hold tighter then that. Are you sure the rings/mount are tight, and that scope is good?
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I didn't bring home the other target, but the first 4 shots were at 25 yrds to get on paper. The last 3 of those 4 were touching each other. The first was about 1 1/2" away from the following three. All 4 hits were 5 inches low of the bullseye.

I then put the same target out to 50 yrds, thinking that the bullet will still be rising so I made NO elevation adjustments. I don't know why, but the next 2 shots were 1 inch lower. So I dialed in a chunk of elevation and brought it up till it was shooting 1 inch low at 50 yrds.

Then I took a new target out to the 100 yrd range....the results are what you see above.

The mount is a 3 point aluminum mount (red) loctited in, the rings are B-Square "low" rings, the scope is a brand new Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40. All cap-screws are tightened and double checked.
There was zero cross wind, and the temp was between +6 and +9 C.
It might be interesting to hear what the gurus think...45ACP, Hungry.
I can still hear Hungry saying to "buy lottery tickets" after seeing how tight the gun was at his clinic here in Edmonton.
 
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Bought at Milarm here in Edmonton, but almost exactly the same as Marstar's "Deluxe See Thru" part number M14-013.

Thinking back, I should have tried 5 shots using the peep sights.
 
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Tagged for interest. I've got the same mount, under a Bushnell 3200 10x40mm mildot.

First time I had it out I had a Leapers mildot on it. The scope ran out of upwards adjustment before it even got onto paper. Later experimentation on a different mount on a different gun showed that it was the scope; had the same problem with it on a Millett saddle mount on one of my 870's.

Picked up the Bushnell scope at Christmas, and mounted it using some Tasco rings. Got the scope zeroed and shooting into the same hole at 25 meters within a few shots, but the rings weren't enough to do the job and the scope slipped backwards and rotated clockwise.

I've got better rings on it now, and will be getting out with it as soon as I can.

I'm pretty confident in the mount, and very confident in the scope. One thing I did to the mount was shorten it by a few notches in the front using a dremel, as with low rings the bell of the scope prevented me from mounting it as far back as I would have liked.
 
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Here is the results of scoping my M-14...
I'm not saying anything except that I'll go back out again when the weather is more spring like and when that Marstar "Op Rod Spring Guide" is installed.
100 yrds, bench rested, American Eagle 150gr FMJ


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If you installed the mount properly, and I am sure you did then I cannot see this much variablilty being related to the mount.

I have two Bassett mounts, and they always hold a perfect zero. A while back I was having problems with my rifle cycling properly. On one of my range trips I zeroed my scope and then over the day, took the mount off, and disassembled my rifle 4 times, each time I put the Bassett mount back on. At the end of the day I fired a 10 shot group as shown below. Over the last year both my Bassett mounts have performed flawlessly.

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rdelliott I'm pretty confident in the mount, and very confident in the scope. One thing I did to the mount was shorten it by a few notches in the front using a dremel, as with low rings the bell of the scope prevented me from mounting it as far back as I would have liked.
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Don't you just LOVE doing spontanious, spur of the moment decisions?
Well, theres no FREAKIN' going back now.
Chopped off 3 notches with a fine bladed hacksaw then filed the end smooth and painted it flat black. Your comment about eye relief was also a problem I had. Also...one very interesting point. I looked at the rifle just before I decided to cut...the zoom adjustment ring was contacting the back of the mount! I KNOW it wasn't when I started shooting yesterday cause I adjusted for the longer range from 25 to 50 and it wasn't rubbing then. Strange though cause after noticing just now, I tried to twist the scope and it was in there TIGHT.
So, when the paint dries, I'll remount it and install the scope and wait for another warm weekend to test it out. (1 hr drive to the range)

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Chopped mount painted and reinstalled...There are NO CLEARANCE ISSUES NOW DAMNIT!
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suprathepeg said:
Ours will be allong the same thought process as the Troy MCS and CAS-14. If you can find a quality mount that will do that for under $100 then have it. If we can meet the $300 goal (no final commitment till production is ready to go) We'll be much much cheaper then the competition and available in Canada.

Remember the old addage "you get what you pay for", especially when it comes to M14 stuff.
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So is your new mount going to be an entire chassis or just a a mount to be added to an existing wooden or fibreglass stocked M14? I'm in the market for a good scope mount (after wasting money on a cheap one) and I'd be interested in a Canadian made one if it was worth the money. I'm not interested in an entire stock/chassis because I want the rifle to still look like an M14 at the end of the day. Just personal preference.

Cheers,
 
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