Was this guy pulling my leg?

[notsorichguy]

So, I guess consistency and accuracy are of little importance when reloading this way.

Consider this.

Most "old guys" out there remember a time when factory rifles and ammo could barely manage a 4" group t 100y. Anything better than that was condidered "a fricken lazer"!

Consider my father-in-law, who reloads for 8 different rifles. His criteria for hunting accuracy in his rifles is 2.5" @ 100y. Then a verification of 7-8" or better group at 300y. He always picks his powder by "what will fill the case right up". I once asked him why, his response was "cause jack said so". (Yes that is a Jack Connor reference).

Now that isn't to say he doesn't weigh his charges, but for his 270 he uses a thrower.

Now I can always get better groups on paper than he does. But I have yet to see him do anything other than a bang flop on a big game animal inside of 350y. Myself on the other hand....... I always try to be more accurate and put the bullet right where I want it. That is fine but sometimes I try to hedge my bets, and hold a bit high or low. Well I'm not that great of a range estimated and sometimes I'll shoot under or over the animal.......

OP;

So in short. If a man you know to be a old/great sportsman, with all his fingers and toes, tells you something that he does in regards to being a hunter, fisher, camper or a sportsmen in general....... Listen. If you not understand, ask for clarification.....

 

[Grizzly Adams]

That just sounds ridiculous no matter the cartridge ...

To me, about as rediculous as just using one of those LEE type dippers.

Grizz

 

[Tinman204]

I use lee scoops all of the time. I scoop and weight the charge, then I make a note in my reloading handbook as to how much each dipper throws weight wise for that powder. Yeah I wouldn't just load by volume as I don't feel that it is safe, although if you read Richard Lee's reloading manual there's a chapter on loading by volume vs. weight.

For instance I have a lee dipper that when filled with IMR 4895 weighs 36.5 grains and makes a very accurate load in one of my cartridges. it's yields sub moa accuracy and has a nice light recoil. I've yet to find a cartridge that can be over filled using the loads in a lee manual and the dipper that is supplied with the lee die sets. I'm sure if you went with a powder not specified in a lee manual you could say have 70% of the case filled and have a severe over pressured round.

These were measured with a lee dipper and shot out of my Ross @100 yards

And so were these, different bullet, powder and charge

I've also had great success using the lee dippers for my Mosin, carcano and my lee Enfields.



I could go on and on, the lee dippers work great as long as you know how much of a charge you are throwing with them. Might I add the process is quite fast, scoop, level, dump on to the next!

I also use a traditional powder measure to, they both yield great accuracy. Might I add that I'm solely a bench rest shooter and I'm very unhappy unless my guns shoot under 1" @ 100 yards!!

 

[Grizzly Adams]

I use lee scoops all of the time. I scoop and weight the charge, then I make a note in my reloading handbook as to how much each dipper throws weight wise for that powder. Yeah I wouldn't just load by volume as I don't feel that it is safe, although if you read Richard Lee's reloading manual there's a chapter on loading by volume vs. weight.

For instance I have a lee dipper that when filled with IMR 4895 weighs 36.5 grains and makes a very accurate load in one of my cartridges. it's yields sub moa accuracy and has a nice light recoil. I've yet to find a cartridge that can be over filled using the loads in a lee manual and the dipper that is supplied with the lee die sets. I'm sure if you went with a powder not specified in a lee manual you could say have 70% of the case filled and have a severe over pressured round.

These were measured with a lee dipper and shot out of my Ross @100 yards

And so were these, different bullet, powder and charge

I've also had great success using the lee dippers for my Mosin, carcano and my lee Enfields.



I could go on and on, the lee dippers work great as long as you know how much of a charge you are throwing with them. Might I add the process is quite fast, scoop, level, dump on to the next!

I also use a traditional powder measure to, they both yield great accuracy. Might I add that I'm solely a bench rest shooter and I'm very unhappy unless my guns shoot under 1" @ 100 yards!!

I look at them as the poor man's powder measure. I'd never load a rifle charge without weighing it, but I used to combine the measures to throw me a charge close to what I wanted and finish it off with the trickler.

Grizz