Wax or rubber bullet supplier in Canada
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thepolinator
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Contact the Fast Draw club in Langley,BC. They shoot tons of wax bullets. Al you need is a shell, a 209 primer and wax bullets. Get yourself a silicone mold and after you shot few thousands bullets, melt the ones you shot and pour them in the mold. Then shoot them again.
If you really want to go the most economic way possible the solution is to buy a silicone mold and cast your own. U can do it indoors no problem as wax is not toxic, requires little to no tools and can save you money. There is no ammo cheaper than shooting wax and if you do it yourself then is even cheaper. All you will pay for are the primers.
Check your flea market, thrift stores and everything in between for candles and wax residue(roofing etc)
If you need molds let me know and I'll set you up with a Fast Draw guy in California who makes them. I have one from him and never used it. (No, I don't want to sell it) If i'm not mistaking a mold with 120 cavities is 20 or 30$, I can find out for you if you want. You'll have it forever and ever. To be honest I never made myself wax bullets but I've seen them in the making by people who make a living out of this. I wish I would know about lead bullets as many things I know about wax bullets.
Lemme know if ya need help as I know everyone in this sport.
I tested every wax bullet from every single manufacturer in North America. I eat wax bullets for breakfast, ha ha. For real now, lemme know what ya need and I'll guide you step by step in your quest. It's easy breazy, what a sleazy.
Check your flea market, thrift stores and everything in between for candles and wax residue(roofing etc)
If you need molds let me know and I'll set you up with a Fast Draw guy in California who makes them. I have one from him and never used it. (No, I don't want to sell it) If i'm not mistaking a mold with 120 cavities is 20 or 30$, I can find out for you if you want. You'll have it forever and ever. To be honest I never made myself wax bullets but I've seen them in the making by people who make a living out of this. I wish I would know about lead bullets as many things I know about wax bullets.
Lemme know if ya need help as I know everyone in this sport.
I tested every wax bullet from every single manufacturer in North America. I eat wax bullets for breakfast, ha ha. For real now, lemme know what ya need and I'll guide you step by step in your quest. It's easy breazy, what a sleazy.
So I like shooting my 1873 replica in 45 colt. Your telling me I don't need to spend a buck a bullet? What's the effective range of them ? Also no powder. Just pop out the old primer. Seat a new one and (I assume you can hand load the bullet) and your off to the races? Thanks
Wax bullets propelled by a 209 primer(no powder) goes out with a speed of 6-700 fps. That's fast enough in my book. CFDA shoots wax at 21 feet. OFDA shoot as far as 25 feet. It can go even farther. If you want higher speed you can load 1 grain of whatever powder so you'll have a bit of smoke and a tad recoil. Possibilities are endless but the purpose of using wax is learning a draw, a moving sequence, cocking fast multiple times and hitting multiple targets etc from relative close range. After the body and mind know the move, live ammo is required to complete what was learned.
The wax bullet goes inside the shell using the thumb. The primer pocket has to be enlarged to accept "flush" a 209 primer. Primer will be sat on the shell using the fingers. Once shot, the spent primer is thrown, add a new bullet a new primer and here you go again. Shells will last a lifetime as there is no pressure big enough to deform the shell walls.
I have 400 shells like that (I bought them ready made) and I shot them probably 1000 times each and they are like I bought them yesterday.
Tip: before shooting the first wax bullet run an oily patch through the barrel. Wax will build up after 20-30 shots so oil will slow down the build up wax. Every 20-30 shots run the oily patch again once or twice. I shot once without cleaning the barrel at all to see what will happen. After 100 rounds the barrel was so clogged with wax, the bullet got stuck in the barrel. Then I shot another bullet behind the stucked one. Then another one until the whole barrel was full of bullets. So that is the worst case scenario when shooting wax and forget to clean the barrel.
To remove a such mess, boil a cup of water and dip the barrel in the cup and they will all melt away and you'll have the barrel perfectly clean.
Don't want to do that, then run a patch dipped in any oil through the barrel every 20-30 shots and you'll have no issues at all.
WARNIN
even with no powder behind, a wax bullet can still do some damage to yourself or others. So safety at all times just like with live ammo. Wax hurts like hell. The wound do not require a visit to the hospital but is still very painful.
To make a better idea watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YClXt2gdWrI
The wax bullet goes inside the shell using the thumb. The primer pocket has to be enlarged to accept "flush" a 209 primer. Primer will be sat on the shell using the fingers. Once shot, the spent primer is thrown, add a new bullet a new primer and here you go again. Shells will last a lifetime as there is no pressure big enough to deform the shell walls.
I have 400 shells like that (I bought them ready made) and I shot them probably 1000 times each and they are like I bought them yesterday.
Tip: before shooting the first wax bullet run an oily patch through the barrel. Wax will build up after 20-30 shots so oil will slow down the build up wax. Every 20-30 shots run the oily patch again once or twice. I shot once without cleaning the barrel at all to see what will happen. After 100 rounds the barrel was so clogged with wax, the bullet got stuck in the barrel. Then I shot another bullet behind the stucked one. Then another one until the whole barrel was full of bullets. So that is the worst case scenario when shooting wax and forget to clean the barrel.
To remove a such mess, boil a cup of water and dip the barrel in the cup and they will all melt away and you'll have the barrel perfectly clean.
Don't want to do that, then run a patch dipped in any oil through the barrel every 20-30 shots and you'll have no issues at all.
WARNIN
even with no powder behind, a wax bullet can still do some damage to yourself or others. So safety at all times just like with live ammo. Wax hurts like hell. The wound do not require a visit to the hospital but is still very painful.To make a better idea watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YClXt2gdWrI
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fingers284
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No need for 209 primers or " mold" for home built wax bullet shooting however there are a few "you have to do's" to make it work.
first of all the "bullets"; just melt a layer of wax (as thick as you want your bullets to be long) in a flat bottom cake pan or some such metal container that has walls at least as high as you want your bullets to be. after priming your brass simply "cookie-cutter" the bullets from the wax cake...done. I have found that the "Parafin wax used by your mother when canning was still an everyday activity practiced by most everybody is a bit "brittle" and prone to cracking but the candle wax you buy from hobby stores is a bit more pliable and less cracking when cookie-cutting.
Priming; This is a bit more involved than making the bullets. Wax bullet shells that you want to use in your rifle are very straight forward, prime with a magnum primer of the size you regularly use in that cartridge, cookie-cut your bullet and use. The only draw-back to these shells in a rifle is that they are essentially "full wad-cutters" and feeding can be a bugger.
Priming for revolvers is a different kettle of fish as you MUST enlarge the flash hole to a size that only enough "primer pocket webb material remains to seat the primer anvil against. This is a "must" because if you don't, the pressure build-up in the primer pocket during firing will back the primer out of the pocket, jam against the recoil plate and lock up your pistol ...of course, cases modified for wax bullet shooting must not be used for "regular" shells afterwards.
basically for the price of a small drill bit and a brick of primers you can do a lot of "draw and fire" practice.
first of all the "bullets"; just melt a layer of wax (as thick as you want your bullets to be long) in a flat bottom cake pan or some such metal container that has walls at least as high as you want your bullets to be. after priming your brass simply "cookie-cutter" the bullets from the wax cake...done. I have found that the "Parafin wax used by your mother when canning was still an everyday activity practiced by most everybody is a bit "brittle" and prone to cracking but the candle wax you buy from hobby stores is a bit more pliable and less cracking when cookie-cutting.
Priming; This is a bit more involved than making the bullets. Wax bullet shells that you want to use in your rifle are very straight forward, prime with a magnum primer of the size you regularly use in that cartridge, cookie-cut your bullet and use. The only draw-back to these shells in a rifle is that they are essentially "full wad-cutters" and feeding can be a bugger.
Priming for revolvers is a different kettle of fish as you MUST enlarge the flash hole to a size that only enough "primer pocket webb material remains to seat the primer anvil against. This is a "must" because if you don't, the pressure build-up in the primer pocket during firing will back the primer out of the pocket, jam against the recoil plate and lock up your pistol ...of course, cases modified for wax bullet shooting must not be used for "regular" shells afterwards.
basically for the price of a small drill bit and a brick of primers you can do a lot of "draw and fire" practice.
Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted the info I collected. Here it is:
No Wax bullet manufacturers that we know of in Canada;
We usually pick them up at contest that we go to in the U.S Three popular brands are:
C&R Wax= ranhuntrs@yahoo.com
Spitfire Wax= red@waxbullets.com
Bandit Shooting SUpplies=banditshooting@gmail.com
I've made my own for practice-I have an aluminum mold and I heat up to melting a pan of wax made of mixed crayons and paraffin wax. WARNING-WATCH OUT FOR SUDDEN COMBUSTION! (The gas fumes explode quickly if one waits too long after melting.-I keep a wooden or metal board ready to place over the pan and snuff it out real quicklike!)
Spray some PAM in your mold, (so that the wax bullets release easier) then pour in the melted (melting) wax and scrape it off the top of the mold with a plastic scraper. (wear a glove-the stuff is HOT!) Wait until the wax solidifies, then break the mold apart to release the bullets. # these particular home practice wax bullets are not legal for either WFDA nor CFDA contests and are for practice only. (They also melt in the hot
sun).
Another device that is catching on for our FD folks are laser lights that fit in the gun cylinders. (I do not know how much good they would do re C.A.S. shooting, someone in that venue really should try it)
Sorry, but it's the best we can do for you at this point, meanwhile, please take care and have fun!
No Wax bullet manufacturers that we know of in Canada;
We usually pick them up at contest that we go to in the U.S Three popular brands are:
C&R Wax= ranhuntrs@yahoo.com
Spitfire Wax= red@waxbullets.com
Bandit Shooting SUpplies=banditshooting@gmail.com
I've made my own for practice-I have an aluminum mold and I heat up to melting a pan of wax made of mixed crayons and paraffin wax. WARNING-WATCH OUT FOR SUDDEN COMBUSTION! (The gas fumes explode quickly if one waits too long after melting.-I keep a wooden or metal board ready to place over the pan and snuff it out real quicklike!)
Spray some PAM in your mold, (so that the wax bullets release easier) then pour in the melted (melting) wax and scrape it off the top of the mold with a plastic scraper. (wear a glove-the stuff is HOT!) Wait until the wax solidifies, then break the mold apart to release the bullets. # these particular home practice wax bullets are not legal for either WFDA nor CFDA contests and are for practice only. (They also melt in the hot
sun).
Another device that is catching on for our FD folks are laser lights that fit in the gun cylinders. (I do not know how much good they would do re C.A.S. shooting, someone in that venue really should try it)
Sorry, but it's the best we can do for you at this point, meanwhile, please take care and have fun!
