Weapon choice for Coyote Calling?

sv7772
To answer your questions directly I shoot a 10ga sometimes and yes you will have a longer effective range than the 12ga due to the better patterns from the larger bore.
I will tell you from experience don't shoot shot smaller than BB and I recomend #4 buck as the #1 choice, the smaller shot balls up in the hair and has poor penetration. If your shots are 5-50yards don't bother with the 10ga, a 3" 12ga will kill every dog you shoot at from 50 yards. The 10ga has its trade offs, to get better patterns and longer range you get a heavier more expensive to shoot harder to find ammo for shotgun that you probably won't kill any more coyotes with. As for the single shot 10ga I would advise against it for recoil reasons alone but also a quick follow up shot is handy. Spend the money on a patternmaster or equal choke tube and premium ammo, then pattern the gun with different ammo at 30 yards to determine which throws the best pattern. Once you have the best ammo then extend your distance untill you stop getting effective patterns this will show you your maximum range. Once you know that go and shoot some coyotes.

P.S. At 5 to 10 yards its still really easy to miss with a tight patterning shotgun and way harder on your pride when you miss up close with a shotgun, Or so I have heard. ;-)
Have fun
 
i can votch fo that one .way to easy to miss at close range ..number 4 buck is the best alround shot for 12g shot gun with any choke .more so for older guns that did not have removable chokes.if i had a choice i would care a ruger mini 14 in 223 and a 12g loaded with number 4 buck over my shoulder .DUTCH
 
On my calling gun I have a 4.5-14 scope. Down at 4.5x I have plenty FOV for the close shots where I keep it when calling and can dial it up as necessary.

Lot of guys do call with scatterguns, but I don't want be packing 2 guns to eack stand.

I get way more dogs that hang up outside of 100 yards than come into 50 or closer. I am hunting very open country.
 
sv7772 said:
Feel free to never speak to me again chuck nelson, I consider that ignorant
and childish

:kickInTheNuts:

Have a good day

sv7772
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Quit your whining and learn to shoot. That seems to be the simplest and cheapest solution. Your problems are far beyond anything a shotgun can cure if you can't hit a coyote with a rifle inside 20 yds.
 
chuck nelson said:
Quit your whining and learn to shoot. That seems to be the simplest and cheapest solution. Your problems are far beyond anything a shotgun can cure if you can't hit a coyote with a rifle inside 20 yds.
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I bet you have a problem keeping friends chuck, I pitty you.......

thanks for making my day and letting me know that there is still people out there that think they are cool by making rude comments to good people seeking good information or advise. I believe Iam speaking for alot of members here when I say this, Don't let the door hit you on the way out

once again chuck have a good day

sv7772
 
pharaoh2 said:
A 3.5 12 will never equal the 3.5 10. The 12 gives you more velocity or more lead, not both. The 10 will.
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The 12 vs. 10 argument seldom compares apples-to-apples, though? :(

I understand what you are saying fully :), but most compare a 3.5 in 12 to a smaller shell in 10....:redface:...ending in silliness.....:D
 
The 3 inch 10 will still outperform a 3 1/2 inch 12. The 12 is trying to cram too much shot in there. Look at the Brits, they understand more lead isn't the solution to everyting. In fact alot of double shooters are going back to the 2 1/2 inch 12 because the shorter shot columns pattern and flies better.

Besides, I can't tell you when I last saw a box of 3 inch 10 gauge anything. :)
 
pharaoh2 said:
The 3 inch 10 will still outperform a 3 1/2 inch 12. The 12 is trying to cram too much shot in there. Look at the Brits, they understand more lead isn't the solution to everyting. In fact alot of double shooters are going back to the 2 1/2 inch 12 because the shorter shot columns pattern and flies better.

Besides, I can't tell you when I last saw a box of 3 inch 10 gauge anything. :)
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It's an old "argument" :p, proliferated on "the Internetz"......;)....just saying! :yingyang:

And :wave:, like most such arguments :(, it has roots in unequal comparison/miscommnications.....:evil:

bill c68 said:
my buddies that regularly hunt coyotes with hounds use #4 buck and BB, They have better success with the BBs at longer ranges, believe it or not.
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Is it silly to ask the choke? :D
 
i shoot both 10 and tweve regularly as far as large shot tts up to 000 buck pattern better in the ten gauges at longer ranges ,weve compared mostley to geese high up using tt steel and in reality the 12 3.5 is not the same as the ten 3.5.the ten is also lighter on recoil than the 3.5 twelve.we now use buckshot for deer with the ten gauges and dont loose deer anymore. we use number 4 buck with a modified kicks choke tube and can reach 60 yards consistantly and farther with good patterns when the distances get longer better off going to a rifle with a lower power scope say 1.5 to 5 or a 2 to 7 you can reach still upto 200 yards on a coyote at 5x or 7x. and when the coyote comes in tight the low power scope is the ticket cheers george
 
I pick a rifle over a shotgun, I also use a scope that is capable of going from 16X to 2.5X, great for short and long distances.
As far as the 10 VS 12, I shot a Mag 10 for a while, I could not get it to group as tight as my 870, I tried lots of different shells and lots of different chokes. There truly is a great feeling when carrying a 10 guage around, but it just didn't work out for me.
 
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