Weatherby Vanguard 'Sub Moa'

Scott, I'm not in any big argument here.

But when you take a barreled action, and stuff it, sans bedding, into a flexible POS plastic stock with a LOT of upward pressure and get similar groups, that may not be telling you much about the potential accuracy of that barreled action.

Put it in a good, stiff stock, properly bedded and see how it does. It may not be any better, but it's hard to argue that you have better component parts to make an accurate rifle. Tupperware stocks are used because they are cheap, not better.

When I get the McMillan bedded up, I'll post my results. It will be a few months yet as I just ordered the stock recently, but stay tuned...

Also, as Pat said, that stock is by all odds the worst shaped POS I have ever tried to use. But it is also so flexible there's not much point in working with it. If you float the barrel, it's not stiff enough to maintain a float when firing without leaving a large, unsightly gap around the barrel.
 
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Jennis - I bought a new Vanguard a couple years ago strictly for the action. To me it was not much different than what I was paying for a used 700. It came with an excellent 3 shot group target (1/2 to 3/4). Long story short my gunsmith was impressed with the action. Today it is barrelled in a 243 Ack. sitting in a Boyd's laminate and it's a hell of a shooter. I may not ever go that route again to build another rifle on but the Vanguard is an excellent quality for the dollar.
 
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Are the triggers adjustable?
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to a point...they have adjustment for pull weight and sear engagement...BUT, when you get the sear engagement to where it doesn't have any creep the safety usually won't engage....there are ways to remedy this but it requires filing, grinding or machining and if you mess up...you may as well call WGP and get a Timney....but, having said that IMHO the Vanguard and other renditions of the Howa 1500 are the best deal out there in a new rifle in thier price range...unless you want a Ruger M77.
 
I have just recently bought a vangaurd in 300 wby, and i do like the rifle, i found it was of good quality for the price range, i did find that the trigger needed to be lightened for my liking, but that is easy enough to do, i have not yet been able to shoot sub moa yet but i have not tried any handloads, the test target was shot with 180 gr bullets, my next try will be with something in 165 gr, overall i love the rifle.
 
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