Weatherby Vanguard

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Yesterday i got out to shoot some paper at a friends farm, he let me try his Weatherby Vanguard in .223 it fit nice felt nice to shoot but concern is im out to buy my first hunting rifle so im going to be looking for something in a 270 or 30 06. Now ive seen in a lot of threads about the savages and such im just wondering how well the weatherbys compare to the savages because ive shot both like both now its just a matter of deciding between the two. I know they both have package deals just wondering what might be the better buy, which is made better because i want to keep it around for awhile and willing to invest about $800 into it. I dont need anything overly fancy nor pretty. So any insight into this would be much appreciated, even suggestions on other guns would be awesome im just trying to keep my options open don't want rush into this and feel like i made a mistake.
 
My experience with Weatherby is that they are nice guns. However I had one that was in fact made by Kassnar & branded under Weatherby's name. The Kassnar while identical was half the price.

IMO, I would buy the Savage. They are made by Savage & are exec. guns. Also I would think that parts and accessories for them are a lot easier to find.
My opinion only though.
 
I have had 4 weatherby's and 4 Savages. Prefer the Weatherby to the Savage. Don't buy a package deal, pick up the rifle and a better quality scope.
 
colinjw said:
My experience with Weatherby is that they are nice guns. However I had one that was in fact made by Kassnar & branded under Weatherby's name. The Kassnar while identical was half the price
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You're thinking of Weatherby scopes...the Weatherby Vanguard has been made by Howa Machinery in Japan since day one.............

day one was back in about 1972.

Howa also made the Mark V after Sauer in Germany became too expensive...Mark V's are now made in America by Saco Defense in Maine.

I'd trade two Salvages for a Vanguard any day of the week.....
 
Although I don't own one, I saw a fellow at the range shooting one as you described. I must say that I was very impressed with the rifle and the tiny little groups that it shot. :)
 
They both have fine reputations for accuracy. I think the Weatherby is a nicer looking rifle and it's stock design fits me a little better. Choose the one that most appeals to you.
 
Get the one YOU like the best. I have both and I like the stock shape on the Vanguard. I don't like the trigger as much though. The triggers are 'fixable', so that does not really matter. I agree with Mylesrom, get the bare rifle and buy a different/better scope.
 
Rembo said:
You're thinking of Weatherby scopes...the Weatherby Vanguard has been made by Howa Machinery in Japan since day one.............

day one was back in about 1972.

Howa also made the Mark V after Sauer in Germany became too expensive...Mark V's are now made in America by Saco Defense in Maine.

I'd trade two Salvages for a Vanguard any day of the week.....
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Yep Id listen to this feel he tends to know his $hit.

Ive owned both and liked the Vanguard best and only complaint was some creep in the trigger which could be fixed with a timney.

Cheers!!
 
i've got a vangaurd in 300 wby mag, its great for what i use it for, if i was to complain about something it would be the trigger but that is easily fixed with an after market unit, i've also got a new model 700 remington with the new x mark trigger and i dont like it either, i have not tried a factory savage trigger.
 
Have had both and loved both Savage has i think more of a choice of rifle's to choose from having said that the weatherby is a better looking rifle and I do beleive they still come with a target to show you how they shoot prior to leaving the factory. I don't think savage ever did that so what you buy is what you get just luck of the draw if its a good shooter or not.
 
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Umm, I know not really part of the question, but have you considered a Tikka T3.
Amazing rifles, adjustable trigger standard, MOA out of the box and everyone I know who owns one loves them.
I'm picking one up in 9.3x62 myself.
 
Currently, I have a Vanguard Deluxe in 30-06 which is a very handsome looking rifle that is also a good shooter. I have owned the entry level Vanguard in the same calibre and found that to be equally well made and accurate just not as pretty. I own a Savage Euro Classic in .243 which is also a fine gun but the entry level savages seem to me to be a bit too plastic and rough for my taste. Both Savage and Weatherby are more than accurate enough for hunting with the Weatherby feeling just a bit more solidly built and stocked. Where Savage does have the edge is in the trigger dept with their accu-trigger being superior to the Weatherby one. Of course, there are entirely subjective opinions - my best advice would be to try a variety of rifles and get the one the simply "fits" you the best. Then buy a good scope - not necessarily an excellent one if you can afford it - but a good one nevertheless.
 
well like i said pretty isnt what im looking for, practical is what im looking for it will be my first hunting rifle and i know over the next however many years i hunt i will pick up something truley pretty. the only reason i was looking at the package deal was because i could just harvest the stock scope and put it on a cheap gopher gun for my buddies farm since over the last couple years he has been having problems but is too chicken to go out and do anything about it himself all i was wondering about was the quality and you guys have deffinatly gave me some good information but yesterday a friend of my uncles let me try his stevens 200 in .308 and i think i found what im looking for. I know its just the lowest end savage but it was by far the most comfortable gun i have ever shot and for my first gun (since i know i will be out alot) i want that nice comfortable feeling. i have a feeling i might get grilled about getting a stevens 200 but i think for 1 hunting season then turning it into a cheap project gun it might be worth the money with a medium quality scope for now, for the same price as the Vanguard
 
I wouldn't be concerned about any comments other people will make about the Stevens 200s.
Given the choice between it, a Howa 1500 blued-synthetic, a Wby Vanguard blued synth and a Rem SPS Blued Synth hand me the Stevens.
They are accurate and very inexpensive.
I predict you will get years of good service out of it and there are adjustable triggers available from Timney and other companies that slot right in.
Besides, you'll find plenty of fans of the 200 on CGN.
Do a search on it and you'll find out.
 
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