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Webley .455 Fiocchi observations
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Digress indeed!
First, there is no loophole, you sound like an anti, there never should have been a "no list" and there wouldnt be the issue of using post 1898 brass. This situation was created by the regulations, get rid of the "no list" and you will cease to see any new "post 1898 chamberings". Put the blame where it belongs, on the people who created a list to prevent antiques from being enjoyed. Once they finish "closing the loophole" they will simply move onto those who reload. Come on guys, they do this all the time, we know how it goes.
Second, factory 44 special was loaded to the exact same 750FPS as 44 russian. It was loaded to that level because factories loading it realized rechambering the obsolete 44 russian to 44 special was extremely common in the early 1900's. So although the history of Elmer Keith hot loading his S&W triple locks in 44 special has created a powerful reputation for 44 special, those loadings would grenade an antique gun in short order. So anyone that says that using brass from 1907 is turning an antique into a modern gun is an idiot doing the bidding for the other side, they can only withstand mild loads regardless of the brass being used.
Well said and all 100% correct ^.
The ammo list is the real problem. anyone who has a 44 sp colt can just as easy have a 44 russian saa Colt its just a cylinder swap.
45 Acp chamber is the same as a 450/ 455 MKII chamber. try a 455 fiochhi in your 45 acp chambered SAA colt. they fit perfect.
Alot of the orignal colts have had there cylinders changed long ago and theres no way to tell why because most SAA colts sold brand new had no numbers on the cylinders. so when someone says there selling a SAA colt All orignal really theres no way to tell.
all you can tell is if the frame trigger gard and back strap are all numbered the same theres a number under the tigger gard on the frame that should match the loading gate.
thats about all you can check and know if your gun is as close to orignal as can be.
There are SAA colts with numbered cylinders yes but most are the US gov bought guns the ones that you see 99% of the time never numbered the cylinders or the barrels.
If the RCMP ever made some change to the Caliber lists or said no modern chamberings people will just change there guns back or into other pre 1898 chamberings were Canadians we adapt to goverment B.S its what we do LOL. Look at all the new non restricted shotguns bullpup guns that have 15 + rounds and Semi auto rifles. i think theres a few other Canadians smart enough to know the laws are B.S and wrote by Antis.
Anyway i agree with everything the above poster wrote.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Not sure if you haven't noticed, but the overwhelming trend over the last century has been a tightening of gun rules and restriction of freedoms, that is not going to stop, we can merely delay it. It is downright delusional to think otherwise and check with me in 20 years if you want to make a wager whih way things are going even with gains here and there. The best way to delay it is to stay under the radar, as becoming noted is the first step to becoming restricted. We enjoy a wonderful little pocket of freedom in antiques, and it is very easily preserved by staying within the intentions of the regulations, however misinformed those regulations are. Those intentions are extraordinarily clear; to prevent guns for which readily available ammunition is available from being classified antique.
You, I, and dingus know that we can obtain .455, .44 Russian, and handload. That is our small and enjoyable window of freedom in antiques. These regs were never sensible and have offered us a window of freedom, if we can have he common sense to avoid red flagging ourselves. We at present, are not operating within common sense.
