Weird comparo: .30-30 vs 7x57 under 200 yards.

[Polar Man]

(Lots of drop, high sight in, plenty of pre-season practice too)[/QUOTE]

You mean you didn't just sight it in with 3 shots at the range several years earlier, and once in the field opening day?:D;)
Just foolin, nice shot and deer, so much for it being an up close brush gun.

 

[Takujualuk]

That's it...I'm moving to the effing Yukon!

You would never regret it.

 

[Brutus]

You mean you didn't just sight it in with 3 shots at the range several years earlier, and once in the field opening day?
Just foolin, nice shot and deer, so much for it being an up close brush gun.

I intended to hunt a 26 inch rifle variant in 30-30 ('67 Centennial). I used it all summer shooting the metal gongs at the Cold Lake Fish & Game outdoor range.
The rifle developed feeding issues in early August, so this carbine (made in '56) was used instead, after zeroing three plus high @100 yards and another three weekends of range time.
Cheers.......

 

[Boomer]

From Hornady, 200 yard zero. Shoot the right bullet and its not that much far off out to 200 yards.

Bullet
7 x 57 Mauser 139 gr. BTSP InterLock
30-30 Win 160 gr. FTX

Muzzle Vel/Energy
2680/2216
2400/2046

100 vel/En/
2455/1860 + 2.1
2150/1643 +3.0

200 Vel/En/ "0"
2241/1550
1916/1304

That would seem to exaggerate the performance of the .30/30, particularly if fired from a short barrel and diminish the effectiveness of the 7X57, which can make 2700 with a 160, never mind a 140.

 

[MiG25]

from my notes:

30WCF - remington 170 gr 2140 fps from a 20" barrel
7x57 - federal 175 gr 2110 fps from a 22" barrel

and a bonus

8x57 - remington 170 gr 2190 fps from a 24" barrel

obviously the 7x57 and 8x57 are capable of much more, but as they come from american factories, they are pretty close.

 

[8mmpeter]

So, in other words, if either bullet was fired into the vitals of a deer at 200 yds. or less, the deer would die.

 

[The Kurgan]

So, in other words, if either bullet was fired into the vitals of a deer at 200 yds. or less, the deer would die.

Up to 200 yards, the 30-30 is an effective deer killer. I bet more dear have dropped in North America over the past 100 years at the expense of the humble 30-30 round over any other cartridge -- probably more grizzlies to.

After 200 yards, its not the right choice.

As stated above, its really hard to beat the 7x57 -- moderate recoil and extremely efficient. At 300 meters, the 7x57 delivers about the same punch per grain as the 30-06 or 308 Win. Its also supremely accurate and easy to reload for.