peckerwood
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Has anyone here ever seen anything like this? 12ga, 70mm
Weird shotgun slug design...prohib?
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First time I see anything like it...
With the dart-like tail on the end, I doubt it would be usable in a rifled barrel... and I just don't see how it could possibly be accurate out of a smooth-bore..
Have you tried them yet? I'm curious.
With the dart-like tail on the end, I doubt it would be usable in a rifled barrel... and I just don't see how it could possibly be accurate out of a smooth-bore..
Have you tried them yet? I'm curious.
peckerwood
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I haven't...I saw it on the net while looking up other stuff. I think that the lighter tail would help align the projectile better and give a tighter group.
I don't know. I am wondering though if it would be considered a flechette and therefore prohib.
I don't know. I am wondering though if it would be considered a flechette and therefore prohib.
Wrong Way
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They look like they'd do the trick. The fins seem to be shaped to spin the slug, and even if they werent it would still keep the slug from tumbling (the reason we spin bullets to begin with)....I'd try 'em for sure.
What you're looking at is a sabotted slug. The outer sabot allows the smaller diameter bullet to be fired from a 12 guage, and will peel back once the slug exits the bbl... the stabilizer is to make up for the fact that the smooth bore won't impart a spin to the slug...
Brutus
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Read here: http://www.sauvestre.com/index_us.htm
Demented is right on on his assessment, the engineer who designed these, first worked on this design for 120mm smoothbore tank shells.
Demented is right on on his assessment, the engineer who designed these, first worked on this design for 120mm smoothbore tank shells.
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Looks like something out of Star Trek or something. I've never seen anything like it.
Try 'em out, let's see how they work. I wonder if they'd be any good as bear-defending slugs?
- Dave.
Try 'em out, let's see how they work. I wonder if they'd be any good as bear-defending slugs?
- Dave.
Link to the "company" http://www.sauvestre.com/index_us.ht . Still looking for any type of dealer.
-EDIT- Found one site http://www.webmarchand.com/a/liste_produit/idx/3071002/mot/Sauvestre/liste_produit.htm
only ships within Eur.
-EDIT- Found one site http://www.webmarchand.com/a/liste_produit/idx/3071002/mot/Sauvestre/liste_produit.htm
only ships within Eur.
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PerversPépère
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SAuvestre
About two years ago I personnally contacted the originator of this ammo who once worked as a ballistician for the French National Defense.
He's quite familiar with sub-caliber hi-velocity antiarmor projectiles fired from smoothbore cannons such as the one on the Abrams tank.
This is what gave him the idea of developing a saboted fletched projectile for hunting with shotguns. He perfected that peculiar and very accurate round.
I asked him on the feasibility of importing this class of ammunition and he asked me if I could find him some contacts in Canada. I put him in touch with Pro-Pak stores but nothing came out of it.
I guess that if some enterprising store could order enough ammo, we could see those reach our shores.
These slugs were imported for a short period by C.A.I. in the eighties, I think.
PP.
More importantly, where can we get some?
About two years ago I personnally contacted the originator of this ammo who once worked as a ballistician for the French National Defense.
He's quite familiar with sub-caliber hi-velocity antiarmor projectiles fired from smoothbore cannons such as the one on the Abrams tank.
This is what gave him the idea of developing a saboted fletched projectile for hunting with shotguns. He perfected that peculiar and very accurate round.
I asked him on the feasibility of importing this class of ammunition and he asked me if I could find him some contacts in Canada. I put him in touch with Pro-Pak stores but nothing came out of it.
I guess that if some enterprising store could order enough ammo, we could see those reach our shores.
These slugs were imported for a short period by C.A.I. in the eighties, I think.
PP.
As I read the previous posts, i was thinking to myself that smoothbore, saboted, fin stabilized rounds have been a staple for tank guns for a couple of decades. Well, for a lot of nations. Some folks still like rifling on their tank guns.
Brutus
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Scientific tests have proven that smoothbore tank guns in the above 105mm class, penetrated significantly better out of a smooth barrel.
The rifling had the effect of reducing the pentration effect.
I guess it is presumed to be wasted energy, on hard targets.
Or why else would most of the worlds leading armies switching to smooth bore on thier main battle tanks?
The rifling had the effect of reducing the pentration effect.
I guess it is presumed to be wasted energy, on hard targets.
Or why else would most of the worlds leading armies switching to smooth bore on thier main battle tanks?
