Welcome to... Fun with the .41!

[Pocketfisherman]

Hi guys,

Here is a great pic of a couple of great Remingtons. Sorry Wendy...they are antique status.

Here we have a picture of our lonely .41RF certainly and endangered species. Rarer than hens teeth and going for about 5.00 per or 250.00 per box of 50 (if you are lucky) Of course like all old RF cartridges you have a 50/50 shot at it actually firing.

Enter Dixie Gun Works (Thanks Dingus)

Enter the 22 Acorn Blanks

Enter .41 cast bullet (Still working on this one) and black powder load.

Empty cases to show alignment (NOT LOADED I REPEAT NOT A LOADED GUN) to show how the 22 primer must be struck by firing pin.

 

[dingus]

Thats great this is what people need to see how to make a RF adaptor case for diffrent Antique RF Firearms.
If they dont want to buy them that is.
Great pics

 

[Steppenwolf]

Thanks PF, great photos!

 

[8ball]

Great little guns. Thanks.

 

[david doyle]

Pocket fisherman I see you share my affliction of needing guns in braces!

Nice pieces if history bet they are a hoot to shoot. A cute RF is my next antique. Thanks for the pics of the case work.

 

[Pocketfisherman]

Yes, one is nice but two is better!

Pocket fisherman I see you share my affliction of needing guns in braces!

Nice pieces if history bet they are a hoot to shoot. A cute RF is my next antique. Thanks for the pics of the case work.

 

[nessy357]

Niiiiiiiice pistols those are sweet!

 

[rickruddell]

Nice looking guns!

 

[Urban]

man.. i want one of those... they are so hard to find... I try tracking them down, but they always have the cracked hinge.

 

[peckerwood]

Where are the action pics...I want exploding melons and devastated pumpkins

 

[Pocketfisherman]

Yes,

A note on the guns. They are a ##### to find without the hinges being cracked. I picked up the first one from a antique gun dealer that does the show circuit in Ontario. I asked him to find me a second one and he picked up the second one at a gun show in the States a week later.

If your into Remington antiques you can check out http: //www.remingtonsociety.com/ (remove space)

 

[mtallman]

Rarer than hens teeth and going for about 5.00 per or 250.00 per box of 50 (if you are lucky) Of course like all old RF cartridges you have a 50/50 shot at it actually firing.

At the Brandon show, one guy had a bunch of them for $3 a pop, and .32 short rf for $2.

 

[mooncoon]

Thats great this is what people need to see how to make a RF adaptor case for diffrent Antique RF Firearms.
If they dont want to buy them that is.
Great pics

I have made cases for several calibers (.32, .34, .38, .53 Spencer, and .57 Wanzl) . I think the first thing is to make some sort of chamber cast either with parafin wax or with cerrosafe. Take the cast a short ways into the bore so that you can get a bullet diameter as well. I think you will find that chamber dimensions vary and many rimfires came is short, long and extra long versions. Also remember that most or all rimfires had heeled bullets which means that like a .22 rimfire, the base of the bullet is crimped into the case but most of the bullet is the same diameter as the outside of the case. That means that you have to make allowances for how much full diameter slug you want in the chamber when calculating how long the case should be.
I used .22 blanks as the primers in the .32 rimfire shells partly because a .27 cal hilti shell is almost the same size as the inside of the rimfire case. Also for .32 cal up to .38 cal, sometimes the firing blades/pins are large enough that the blank shell used as a primer can be centered in the case and still be struck. In other situations such as the Whitney Phoenix in the photo, the pin is quite small and the primer has to be offset.
For the cases where the primer is centered, I made the shell rim about .015" thinner than factory and made the rim recess for the blank shallow by the same amount. That way the firing pin does not use up energy on the brass shell.
I think you are safe using the green hilti shells as primers in both pistols and rifles but would suggest using the stronger ones, particularly the red shells only in rifles. The red shells are considerably hotter than the green ones and I think they are too hot for pistols, particularly revolvers.
A final note for those cutting off .22 shells to use as primers; the priming compound comes at least 1/2 way up the sides of a long rifle shell so basically don't cut them; pull the slug.
In making the .38 rimfire shell, the primer needs to be so little off center than I was able to chuck the brass case body in a 3 jaw chuck and use a piece of hacksaw blade as a shim on one jaw which puts the primer hole about .020" offcenter.

cheers mooncoon