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Anything that keeps people buying guns and keeping our sport going is a good thing. No it doesn’t anything the 260 and swede won’t do, but if we started culling cartridges based on redundancy there sure wouldn’t be much to choose from.

Good rifle; good caliber but why???

Answer: Apply marketing (about 90% of the success of this load is not because of the load itself but the marketing; I remember one goof on here posting that his was a "thousand yard deer rifle"). What does it do better than the .260 Rem or the 6.5 x 55? Absolutely nothing.... Oh, it's a bit shorter. BFD. Likewise pretty much any 6.5 Wildcat round blows it away.

A designer gun, developed to be a commercial success. By the amount they sold, they got that part right.
 
Good rifle; good caliber but why???

Answer: Apply marketing (about 90% of the success of this load is not because of the load itself but the marketing; I remember one goof on here posting that his was a "thousand yard deer rifle"). What does it do better than the .260 Rem or the 6.5 x 55? Absolutely nothing.... Oh, it's a bit shorter. BFD. Likewise pretty much any 6.5 Wildcat round blows it away.

A designer gun, developed to be a commercial success. By the amount they sold, they got that part right.

I've been thinking of trying one out to possibly replace my 6.5x55 some day. Not because it does anything better than the swede but mainly because of the direction of ammo price/availability of the creedmore vs the swede and not reloading.

Not that i'm getting rid of the swede, just giving myself options.
 
Anything that keeps people buying guns and keeping our sport going is a good thing. No it doesn’t anything the 260 and swede won’t do, but if we started culling cartridges based on redundancy there sure wouldn’t be much to choose from.

I don't think the 6.5 Creedmoor should be culled but it is certainly highly over hyped by many(especially south of the border). The Swede is superior to it as far as I am concerned. A guy at work told me all about his Creedmoor being a laser beam long range rifle. I was running a shilen barrel 700 Rem in .264 Winmag with a 1 in 8 inch twist and told him he wasn't in the same league especially with 140 grain bullets and Retumbo powder.
 
Yep - I do not own a 7mm Rem Mag - never fired one - but I do have a 7x61 in a Schultz and Larsen M60 rifle - not likely exactly "cool", I suspect. As if I would care ... But for sure is a "step up" from the 7x57 that I used for many deer, for about 15 or 20 years.

A 7x61 is very cool.....
 
We all do that at some point, buy stuff we don't reload for.

I shot a 6.5 creed last weekend for the first time. A Victrix.

While I shoot a 6.5 PRC for hunting, I am now contemplating building a 6.5 creed for a bench gun. Less powder, cheaper to shoot than the 6.5 PRC is, and will be just to have play time at the range for practice, and maybe, start looking at competitions some day. Was looking at the different 6.5 and 6 mm offerings and the 6.5 creed just stood out. Now to only sell some things I already have to be able to fund the project.
 
Good rifle; good caliber but why???

Answer: Apply marketing (about 90% of the success of this load is not because of the load itself but the marketing; I remember one goof on here posting that his was a "thousand yard deer rifle"). What does it do better than the .260 Rem or the 6.5 x 55? Absolutely nothing.... Oh, it's a bit shorter. BFD. Likewise pretty much any 6.5 Wildcat round blows it away.

A designer gun, developed to be a commercial success. By the amount they sold, they got that part right.

One of the things I think is really cool about the 6.5x55 is that it does basically everything the 6.5 Creedmor does, but did it about a hundred years earlier. There aren't too many cartridges that have been around that long, that compare as favourably, to new cartridges.
Kristian
 
One of the things I think is really cool about the 6.5x55 is that it does basically everything the 6.5 Creedmor does, but did it about a hundred years earlier. There aren't too many cartridges that have been around that long, that compare as favourably, to new cartridges.
Kristian

Perhaps wandering away from OP's topic, but if you decided to stick with only rifle cartridges from 100 years ago or more - so introduced prior to 1922 - I don't think we would "suffer" much - .22 Short, Long and Long Rifle; 6mm Lee Navy; .256 Newton, 6.5x55; 7x57; 30-06; 303 British; 8x57JS; 9.3x57; 9.3x62; 375 H&H and so on. Likely was guys like Ned Roberts using .257" bullets from 7x57 parent case in 1922, and Winchester introduced 270 Win in 1925, so was no doubt similar Wildcats prior to that?
 
Perhaps wandering away from OP's topic, but if you decided to stick with only rifle cartridges from 100 years ago or more - so introduced prior to 1922 - I don't think we would "suffer" much - .22 Short, Long and Long Rifle; 6mm Lee Navy; .256 Newton, 6.5x55; 7x57; 30-06; 303 British; 8x57JS; 9.3x57; 9.3x62; 375 H&H and so on. Likely was guys like Ned Roberts using .257" bullets from 7x57 parent case in 1922, and Winchester introduced 270 Win in 1925, so was no doubt similar Wildcats prior to that?

The only cartridges I would really miss that were introduced after 1922 would be the 222/223 cartridges.
 
Perhaps wandering away from OP's topic, but if you decided to stick with only rifle cartridges from 100 years ago or more - so introduced prior to 1922 - I don't think we would "suffer" much - .22 Short, Long and Long Rifle; 6mm Lee Navy; .256 Newton, 6.5x55; 7x57; 30-06; 303 British; 8x57JS; 9.3x57; 9.3x62; 375 H&H and so on. Likely was guys like Ned Roberts using .257" bullets from 7x57 parent case in 1922, and Winchester introduced 270 Win in 1925, so was no doubt similar Wildcats prior to that?

Very true. But I think the 6.5x55 from 1891 predates almost everything else on your list, and still compares very well to one of the new flavour of the month cartridges, namely the 6.5 Creedmor. Considering it's one of the first 10 cartridges ever designed for smokeless powder, that's pretty impressive. I think it's incredible that they got it that right, that early. The more modern bullets have certainly improved it's long range performance, but the basic formula of a reasonably slippery and heavy 6.5mm bullet still holds up today, and even the case design still works great.
Kristian
 
Flavour of the month….introduced 15 years ago and adopted by the US military LOL

Comparatively speaking, yeah. I know the 6.5 Creedmoor has been around for a while, but It's only fairly recently become the must have cartridge for long range shooting. Never mind the nearly identical spec 6.5x55 has been around for 130 years, doing basically everything the Creedmoor does. It's more of a testament to how right the engineers got things that early than a knock on the 6.5 Creedmoor though. At the end of the day though, if a relatively new cartridge gets new people into shooting, that's a win for everyone. And the more recent bullet developments coming from long range shooting's popularity benefits everyone using older cartridges too.
Kristian
 
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