Well now I've seen it all.
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The photo below is taken from Bruce Canfield's book.
This stock marking is missing from the subject M1 rifle.
I have had discussions before with Bruce as to why inspector's final acceptance stamps were missing on U.S purchased arms.
His answer--- either the stock was refinished (sanded) or it was damaged and replaced.
These markings should be there.
IMHO----I have no problem with a big price on a rare gun....but it better be correct.
David
This stock marking is missing from the subject M1 rifle.
I have had discussions before with Bruce as to why inspector's final acceptance stamps were missing on U.S purchased arms.
His answer--- either the stock was refinished (sanded) or it was damaged and replaced.
These markings should be there.
IMHO----I have no problem with a big price on a rare gun....but it better be correct.
David
....ignoring dumbass drug references for, well, ever....
So where WOULD one acquire a Decent quality M1 Garand, for reasonable price? Doesn't need to be anything spectacular, fancy or such, simply one that is in good shape...
So where WOULD one acquire a Decent quality M1 Garand, for reasonable price? Doesn't need to be anything spectacular, fancy or such, simply one that is in good shape...
$5K M1 Garand?
That's to go with the $2,500 Remington Rand 1911A1 that was listed briefly in the EE yesterday....
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NAA.
Did anyone get pictures of that one? I'd love to see what sold for $2500 so quickly!! LOL
I'm starting to think for $5000 I might sell my Garand also, it's 1943 and all correct, I guess the later date makes it only worth $4500 though.
-Steve
Early Garand used the gas trap system but being somewhat unreliable, pretty much all were converted to gas port,minus very very fews exception. Thoses un-modified gas trap are very very extremely rare, in original form and depending of condition, the book Military firearms collector's price and reference guide 3 rd edition, they are valued between $25 000-$40 000. In the same book, gas trap converted to gas port by the army arsenal are valued between $2500-$5000. Pre dec 7 1941, unaltered are listed from $650-$4000. Since most Garand were refurbished after ww2 in a way or another, an original, unaltered Garand is almost no existant.
Joce
IIRc correctly, the Gas trap models stopped at around the 50,000-51,000 serial number, so no, this would not ever have been a gas trap model, being serial number 381,###.
Correct, this is not a gas trap rifle. The seller makes no claim that it is. 2 interesting things about it are the fact that it still has it's original barrel and also the early "flush nut"/pre-lockbar rear sight". Note the checkered, rather than knurled, elevation knob cap.
A matching receiver/barrel combination is a good start point for a restoration. The correct stock is a bear to find for an early one. As mentioned, there are a number of non-original replacement parts on it. One would need to see a listing of drawing numbers on all the internals to verify parts correct to the receiver's manufacture date. Having verified parts correct, you would then need to examine the parts in detail to get an impression whether or not they have their original finish.
The best chance of finding an original WW2 vintage Garand is to look for one of the Brit lend lease rifles. These escaped the US rebuild/overhaul system, so they have a higher possibility of retaining their original parts.
I've never seen a straight gas port Garand sell for anything near this price. For more than $2000 it ought to have all original parts and should be in very nice shape. A premium would, of course, be paid for a rifle of documented provenance, such as the one that Audie Murphy or Commando Kelly used while winning the Medal of Honor, or maybe the one that Ike kept in his footlocker and only used for sunday afternoon plinking out behind SHAEF HQ.
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Coyote Ugly
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For the Big Spenders and Big Time Sellers out there, this might interest you, a $2,500,000.00 Hemi 'Cuda.
Enjoy that hard earned EE Money now because you can't take it with you when you check out!
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Enjoy that hard earned EE Money now because you can't take it with you when you check out!
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maple_leaf_eh
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You are onto something! A four-figure pricetag better have all period correct drawing numbers. No Winchester subcontractors. Nothing postwar or Italian. No parts marked much later than spring 1942, to account for stock piling of parts and emptying of bins. And negligibly few differences in wear patterns. So, nothing gray and crisp attached to something bright and shiney.
