Were any semi-auto pistols made before 1889?

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Does anyone know of any pistols that are semi-automatic(not revolvers) that were made be prior to 1889 that would have antique status?
 
You mean 1898?

I believe that the Mauser Broomhandle was one of the first semiauto pistols and some were first manufactured in I believe 1896 or 1897...but good luck finding an original made in that year.

There was also the Bergmann...ugly looking thing
 
No, there were some semi-auto pistols made prior of 1898. And, none were made in calibers "on the list". So, as peckerwood suggested, a very early 7.63mm 1896 Mauser would qualify as a deemed antique, and be exempt from licencing and permit requirements. There were others.
 
Rob D. ...Read the SOR98-464 "Regulations Prescribing Antique Firearms" and you will see that there are no restriction in regards to semi-auto pistols, except the calibre, and that they be manufactured before 1898.

But as I said above...good luck finding one...and if you do, it will be prohibitively expensive.
 
Here is some information about Broomhandle serial numbers -

from - http://www.northwest-denture.com/mauser1896/

A few months ago a board member (can't remember who it was) had posted pics of a pre-1898 broomhandle

1896

1-359 Pre-production pistols marked with SYSTEM MAUSER above the chamber
49 Step-barrel 6-shot cone hammer
52 Step-barrel 20-shot cone hammer
107 Step-barrel 10-shot cone hammer

1897 1-1000 Turkish Government Contract Numbered in their own Seperate series in FARSI
658 Turkish Contract Cone Hammer

1897-1899 360-14999 SYSTEM MAUSER cone hammerSemi-perforated safety head revision Chamber markings changed to WAFFENFABRIK MAUSER OBERNDORF
 
I saw an 1897 made conehammer broomhandle last week here in Ottawa. The owner doesn;t want his name advertised, but suffice it to say, it was gorgeous, mint condition, and not registered ;)

Other possibilities include the Bergman (as previously mentioned), the Borchardt (good luck with that), and there was even an experimental semi-auto conversion of the Webley - believe it or not. Probably others too that I'm forgetting...
 
hehe...
I was reading a book and can't remember exactly what year this pistol was made (around 1900 +-), but Webley was experimenting with a full auto revolver. Probably only a few hundred made though, because they didn't pursue the idea too far.
 
mtallman said:
hehe...
I was reading a book and can't remember exactly what year this pistol was made (around 1900 +-), but Webley was experimenting with a full auto revolver. Probably only a few hundred made though, because they didn't pursue the idea too far.

holy crap. I want one! I thought it was just Semi-Auto... A "Slide" cocks back after each shot to pull down the hammer.
 
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Just cause there semi auto dont mean there any good. I heard of a guy lost his eye to one of them old broomhandle thingamagigs :rolleyes:

I would much rather have a Antique revlover as look at a webley MKI they havent changed much in 100 years.
But the semis sure have, If 1911s were antique i would buy one but bergmans and broom handles tho cool looking i bet they are dangerous and unrelibable.

Ah it would still be cool to have one i guess,:D A guy in Washington state had a Antique Cone handle profesinaly converted to 9mil and compleatly restored for sale for $3900 U.S

I guess if i won the lotery idd get one.
 
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