westrifle '49

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yes, lets talk about the stock only . i think you missed my whole point about why refurbs are so varied and that was bcos of different companies refurbishing them.

its obvious that emmab stock was done by someone who has no access to a tula stamp so probably not done at tula . when the worker was ordered to make one up, its obvious he is no craftman, we can see that, he aint fooling anyone. so if he isnt fooling anyone then he was doing it to restore what was once there (or think that was once there), albeit he done a poor job in the restoration but its still a period russsian SKS and not a new production made to look old. like emmab said the poor hand stamp doesnt change the fact the rest of the rifle which is still a period russian SKS, it wouldnt have made no difference whether it was blank or not but now that it created some controversy , i think emmab was lucky to have it, it shows character.

there are a couple of things you have to keep in mind about the 1949 stock, it is even rarer than the rifle itself, obviously its made out of wood and probably most 1949 were issued and well used , cracked and damage, unlike the 54 and 55 where they made enuff to put in storage .

another thing is if the spike wood is rare and i can see from yoopers site that one has a stamp and one without and both are refurb then we actually dont know whether the tula stamp was original or stamped during refurb, maybe there wasnt any stamp to begin with, we just dont know at this point. i have yet to see about a dozen or so 1949 out of the US in the past few years on gunbroker.com that is a non-refurb, most came with a blade bayo and a blade stock.


btw: the huge pic you posted is a blade stock , not a spike so the "1949" was stamp during refurb.
 
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Thanks Curtton for clearing somethings up for me. I will have to get a '49 date in the near furture.

i know what emmab paid for his 1949 and i think he got a good deal, to have a SKS with those unique feature was well worth the extra moola.

heck , i paid almost as much for the standard russian SKS IZH 2008 shipment albeit some were non-refurb .
 
this one sold on gunbroker.com in december, guess how much and then compare it to emmabs 1949, whats the differences and whats the similarities?

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It happens. Depends on what parts were handy during refurb. I have a 53 Izzy with a 54 dated Tula stock, seen lots of other similar guns.
 
this one sold on gunbroker.com in december, guess how much and then compare it to emmabs 1949, whats the differences and whats the similarities?

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Assuming that the serial # of the cover match the receiver, that SKS is not close from the 1949 we have here. Wrong gas block and cover latch lever..... obiviously a heavy refurb rifle. How much they sell that? 500$?
 
Why would they stamp a refurb stock with a date?

there are lots of examples that indicate that not all refurbs are done at gun factories , some may have been contracted out to companies that has no gun experiences so therefore there isnt certain standard they must follow.

Curtton; How much for the '49 sold by gunbroker...$300 Cnd ?

i'll like to get more guesses first but bare in mind gunbroker.com is a US gun auction site so no canadian russian SKS are permitted . the last time a russian SKS was imported into the US was back in 1994.

canadian and the US money is also at par .
 
Assuming that the serial # of the cover match the receiver, that SKS is not close from the 1949 we have here. Wrong gas block and cover latch lever..... obiviously a heavy refurb rifle. How much they sell that? 500$?

good point, there is no pic of the back end of the top cover to show the matching serial number.

the two things that is similar to emmabs are the top cover and the refurb blade stock otherwise its way off, wrong gas block , wrong top cover latch and wrong bayo.

the rifle is probably a late 1950 , you barely see the year on the stock.

inspite of wrong rifle it still sold for $668 instead of more than $1000.
 
good point, there is no pic of the back end of the top cover to show the matching serial number.

the two things that is similar to emmabs are the top cover and the refurb blade stock otherwise its way off, wrong gas block , wrong top cover latch and wrong bayo.

the rifle is probably a late 1950 , you barely see the year on the stock.

inspite of wrong rifle it still sold for $668 instead of more than $1000.

I must add that we dont know if the rifle have the original barrel since the gas block is the wrong type, i dont know if replacing only the gas block was a common practice during refurbishing..... I bought my first 1949 last winter,paid $325 for it, except for the stock and the blade bayonet, all the parts are correct and still have the non chrome bore so the price was all right. My second 1949 from Westrifle cost me $474 for a spike bayonet model and beside the stock, its an all correct rifle in every points. I can hear somes peoples calling me fool for paying close to $500 for an SKS but i dont regret and i live with that very well:) Now the prices have dropped and we are lucky to have 1949 available, in the correct format if i can say.
Cheers,Jocelyn
 
It has all come together for me now! NOW I understand why someone has gone through the trouble of trying to duplicate the "Tula Star" on that butt stock:eek: They're worth $1000 on this continent:eek:I mean..:eek:. I personally would never pay this for an sks,but that's me,I shoot,I don't collect "per se".....Having said that, I think a warning is due as it would seem people are "fiddle f^*king" around with sks's of this vintage....take heed upon what you enter gentlemen:cool:
 
I have been following this thread with great interest. I have been letting the experts talk up till now. I am adding my 2 cents worth because no one else has made a comment on this. I am familiar with mr yoopers site.

page 18.Scroll down a bit and there is a picture of both the Tula and Izzy stocks and both have a similar hand drawn appearance to the factory stamp I am sorry but the stock marking stamps on yoopers sight look NOTHING like the stock stamps on the OP rifle.
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This wasn't the pic I reffered to. Its the next set of pics after these shots
 
`Quick Replay.
1.Stock not original.
2. Everything else original.
3. USA market is not Canadian market. Prices is not comparable. They only makes us happy that we have something cheaper then USA.
SKS,SVT are more expensive in USA. Fact. Mosin are cheaper. Quality is another question.
Also they have a lot more rifles that we cannot have in Canada.

I have about 10 phone calls a week form USA and the question is same : Can you ship to USA? They offer a lot more for parts.
Drunken Ivans do not work at the factories. In fact most inelegant people work at those plants. Cold war is over so stop this nonsense. We do not live in the igloos but some people think that way.
If you have questions ask. We do answer them on regular bases. Stop this polite attacks and be direct.

Thank you for input.
 
Inelegant[sic.intelligent] people?.....igloos?....Drunken Ivans?......polite attacks?.....I don't think I've heard anyone accuse westrifle of anything! Yet this is the 3rd time in this post someone representing the dealer has been awkwardly defensive! Methinks they protest too much!:(.......{note to self.......}
 
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