what 9mm carbine?

well seems to be out of stock everywhere

This is true, but many sites offer the ability to notify you once the item is back in stock and you can just order at that point. Be aware, that because these are in hot demand, you may need to purchase these very quickly upon being notified.

Even though I have a PC9 now, I still keep the notifications for when these come in stock. Most stores receive maybe 5-15 of these per shipment, so best way is to add yourself to the notifications. I know G4C, Al Flaherty and Tenda both have auto-notification capabilities and Tillsonburg can call or email you when they receive shipments. I am sure other sponsors have mechanisms for notification as well.
 
hard pass I have way way to much $ in guns that are now prohib and I cant use or sell

I think the market agrees with this sentiment. The 5.56 version of the X95 sold out like hotcakes. I have been checking my LGS, and the latest X95 9mm are all still in stock. Think for what you are getting, there are many alternative options at half the cost or more.

Also agree with the feedback about PC9 being heavier than expected (the alum handguard version), and that shooting the Sub2K is not the most comfortable.

Accuracy, the PC9 is excellent out of the box.

My kids seem to enjoy shooting the TNW ASR the most.
 
It really depends on what you want the particular carbine for.

Semi auto carbines are fun guns for all sorts of things and I'm all for whomever wants to put them to the purpose they enjoy most.

Personally, I like my bolt action Destroyer. It handles 380acp, 9x19, 9x21, 38 Super and 9x23, all in the same magazine, without a hiccup.

I like my 9x19 and 380acp handguns for the fun stuff.
 
I handled the Hi Point and really liked it. The 5rd magazine is kinda cheesy though when others are available with 10.

If a NR Hi Point 10mm ever makes it here I'll be buying one.
 
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