What 9mm do you shoot the most accurately, and LEAST accurately?

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I was surprised to learn I shoot my Glock better than my Sigs. I think my Sigs are the worse for me, though I hope to improve that with practice.
So sometime in February, i want to buy another 9mm, I'm thinking a Glock 17, since I like the feel of Glocks.

But wondering what else is out there, what guns people shoot the best, and the worst? What other choices to consider?

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I'm the best on target
with steel frame: SIG P226R Elite stainless in 9mm
with polymer frame: SIG Pro 2022 in 9mm
with alloy frame: Italian Beretta 92FS Inox in 9mm
 
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This is an interesting thread. I used to think that pistol accuracy was primarily a function of the pistol and not the shooter (at least in my case). I have been shooting pistols for over 20 years so it couldn't be me...right? WRONG!

I believe that some pistols are inherently accurate, HK P7 series, CZ's, 1911's, be it because of their designs or triggers, or whatever. But I also believe most modern pistols are accurate enough for any purpose outside of bullseye shooting or the very top end of the pistol shooting sports, if you apply the fundamentals properly.

That being said, The most accurate pistols that I could shoot well right off the bat were a Browning Hi Power and a friends HK PSP. I'd say they were both about equal for me in terms of being able to get them to group. Both had crisp single action triggers. The worst were the three Glocks I owned.

I don't blame the Glocks. The accuracy issues were my problem. Now that I've changed the way that I shoot and my attention to the fundamentals, I'm confident that I would have less problems with the Glocks I sold.

But damn I wish I'd never sold that Browning Hi Power.:D
 
Hmm very interesting question.

For me, there aren't many guns that I don't shoot well.

I've had great results from: In 9mm of course...

Glock 17 - I can make a glock damn near sing in my hands
Sti Spartan - More accurate than the glock
CZ 85 Combat - Very good
Beretta 92 - Can shoot just about as well as the glock, trigger pull is too long though


Bad Results:
Sig p 226 - After changing springs, polishing triggers etc. gave up, really don't like them, when ever I drew one from a holster it came up tilted, never fit me right and I have mittens that completely swallow big guns.

That's it really, most others that I have tried have worked well, a few are inherently less accurate, but I digress.

Proper technique can compensate for a poor gun, but only to an extent, but for this 'extent' to be revealed it has to be extreme situations ie long distance or very tight groups.

An excellent gun in poor hands will yield poor results, coming from a clay shooting background, I see many people trying to buy scores, but have their behinds handed to them by experience and reasonable quality.

A great gun in great hands is like a match made in heaven. A gun with a good bore axis, a good quality barrel, good fit in the hand, good trigger pull for both weight and break, shooting good ammunition makes accurate shooting so much easier and requires less effort for the consummate shooter, allowing him/her to continue their performance for longer periods of time.

I think I said too much, sorry. ;)
 
Since I don't spend a ton of time going really slowly, they all shoot about the same for me.

The one difference, I guess, is that I am not really adapted to DA/SA triggers. So my accuracy at speed gets thrown by any DA/SA gun...first and second shot are often three or four inches apart at 10 yards, say.

I do find the SA function on my wife's 226 to allow some very precise shooting...but as I said I don't spend much time going really slowly. Also, I don't jump around between guns much. I will usually shoot a gun for a year or so and rarely pick anything else up, so I don't get a lot of comparison time in.
 
For the most part poor trigger control and grip is the problem and not the pistol. You may flinch or anticipate recoil more (or less) depending on which pistol you're using. Here's a test: Let's say you're using 10 round mags. Make 3 dummy rounds and mix them in with the other 7 legitimate rounds. Load them into your mag and start shooting at your target. Most people will flinch slightly every time the dummy gets chambered and you drop the firing pin on it. You don't realize you're doing it until you try a test like that....and of course, you don't flinch the same amount every time which automatically sprays your target with a poor group. Trigger control, proper grip, and concentrating on holding your sights on target is the key and not the pistol. That being said, yes....there are some lemons out there, but you can't use that as an excuse until you do the test.....;).
 
Here's how I do on the question........

Most accurate:

Glock 17, 19 & 26
BHP Mk III
CZ 85/85 series
1911 platform [full length & commander models]
Star Model B, BM

Less accurate:

Sigs
S&W any series
Beretta 92 series
Walther P38

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I am inaccurate in my Ruger P89s, G17RTF and 1911 (NP29) 9mm.

Least inaccurate in my P89s. About 10 inch 10 - shot groups at 25 meters on a good day.

Can actually miss the paper with my G17RTF at the same range, maybe because of the XS Big Dot sights?

Still getting used to the NP29.
 
I have three 9mms, a CZ75, a NP29 and a TT33 with 9mm bbl.

In general I shoot the CZ better than the Norc (Will see if that holds true after it comes back from having an Armco tune). Shoot the TT33 worst, but then again the trigger on the TT33 is terrible.

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Only have one 9mm its a beretta 92A1 and I don't shoot it that well, better than my friends glock 17 but still nothing to joy about. A good grouping from that is keeping my rounds within a 6 inch circle. I find any 9mm I have ever shot to be inaccurate compared to 45 and 38/357
 
Only have one 9mm its a beretta 92A1 and I don't shoot it that well, better than my friends glock 17 but still nothing to joy about. A good grouping from that is keeping my rounds within a 6 inch circle. I find any 9mm I have ever shot to be inaccurate compared to 45 and 38/357. Never the less I shoot for fun and absolutely love the beretta 92
 
Clobbersauras said:
This is an interesting thread. I used to think that pistol accuracy was primarily a function of the pistol and not the shooter (at least in my case). I have been shooting pistols for over 20 years so it couldn't be me...right? WRONG!

I believe that some pistols are inherently accurate, HK P7 series, CZ's, 1911's, be it because of their designs or triggers, or whatever. But I also believe most modern pistols are accurate enough for any purpose outside of bullseye shooting or the very top end of the pistol shooting sports, if you apply the fundamentals properly.

That being said, The most accurate pistols that I could shoot well right off the bat were a Browning Hi Power and a friends HK PSP. I'd say they were both about equal for me in terms of being able to get them to group. Both had crisp single action triggers. The worst were the three Glocks I owned.

I don't blame the Glocks. The accuracy issues were my problem. Now that I've changed the way that I shoot and my attention to the fundamentals, I'm confident that I would have less problems with the Glocks I sold.

But damn I wish I'd never sold that Browning Hi Power.:D
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Here's the winner right here. Its the shooter not the gear that determines performance.

TDC
 
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