What 9mm to purchase for my 1st?

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This is my first kick at the cat. I am looking to buy my first 9mm and would like to shoot IPSC in the near future. I have researched quite a bit and am looking at the CZ Shadow, but am a little reluctant to spend too much at this point. There is a like new S&W M&P 9mm for a good price. Please help with my decision.


Tks,
:ar15:
 
This is my first kick at the cat. I am looking to buy my first 9mm and would like to shoot IPSC in the near future. I have researched quite a bit and am looking at the CZ Shadow, but am a little reluctant to spend too much at this point. There is a like new S&W M&P 9mm for a good price. Please help with my decision.


Tks,
:ar15:

Theres no right answer to this as whats good to one person isnt good to the next. We all have different hand sizes etc.. So you need to go to a firearms store and hold some 9mm and see what feels good to you. Then you have to figure how much you want to spend. I bought a G17 for my first gun, its a good gun but knowing what i know now i may have bought something different, so do a little research first. Have a price in mind! Keep in mind most guns will come with two mags, and you will want at least 5 if your doing much shooting and mags arent cheap. A mag for my glock was 60 buxs! Plus you will need ammo lol. All cost money, so dont spend a fortune and then not have money for the extras.. However, if money is no object then have at it.
 
Lemme tell you what's gonna happen here...

First, the CZ owners are going to tell you that the Shadow was designed for IPSC, and because of it's low bore axis :puke: it's the only thing you should consider for the sport.

Then the Glock owners are going to chime in and tell you that because Glocks are cheaper than a Thai hooker, and you can drag them behind a truck, underwater, and through lava, and still fire them, you should buy a Glock. (Yes, this is despite the fact that you may never have been dragged behind a truck, can't swim, and avoid lava as if it were, well, lava.)

Next the M&P owners will insist that their M&Ps are as good or better than Glocks. (Are they right? Who cares??)

About this time, SIGophiles are going to tell you that you're going to end up with a SIG down the road anyways, so you might as well save up and buy one first, then you won't have to mess about with inferior weapons.

Then someone with a Beretta is going to tell you that, based on the US Military's use of them, you should TOTALLY buy a Beretta, because it's a proven design, and nothing is prettier.



Is any of this useful information? No. Somewhere in the middle there, someone is going to tell you to go and handle all of the above and more, and pick the one that feels best in your hand. Guess who you should listen to?

(Did I miss anyone?)
 
you're going to end up with a SIG down the road anyways, so you might as well save up and buy one first, then you won't have to mess about with inferior weapons.

^^^ This ^^^

Just kidding, there are many great options but after much deliberation, I did end up with the SIG. The CZ & Beretta were the others on my short list. I first decided between metal & polymer frame. Metal won and that narrowed my choices down.
 
Sig Sauer P226. It should be part of the licence exam "What is an acceptable first pistol purchase?"

A) Sig Sauer 1911 .45acp
B) IMI Desert Eagle .357 Magnum
C) Sig Sauer P226 9mm
D) Colt SAA .45 Colt

If you didn't answer C, you don't get a restricted licence!

haha, it's all in fun!

Buy whatever fits your hands the best, but it is likely there is a Sig model in 9mm that your hands will love!
 
Your first 9mm is a very special gun. Get something that feels good in your hand and points well. My 9mm is my go to gun for taking to the range.

My experience is as follows.

I purchased a Ruger P89 for my first gun. I had tried several 9mm's before hand and one of them was a ruger. I liked the fact that it was accurate and easy to shoot. The looks aren't bad however it is big and may not be the best for small hands my hands are medium and i probably would not get a bigger handgun that it but I don't find it too bad. I have put 3000 rounds of all types of 9mm through it from reloads to high end hollowpoints to hot loads to cheap loads and never had one failure. I added Hogue grips as the grips were not that great that it came with. For 500 bucks it was a great value. If I had more money I would have went to something else probably but I don't regret ever getting that gun.

CZ75 series handguns are nice and were another I strongly considered. They fit my hand as good as you can want a 9 to fit. Accurate, great overall

S&W MP. Felt top heave and cheap but had many modern features. Palm swells are nice double action trigger was acceptable but I don't like the polymer body as it felt way too light.

Glock. Same as Ruger, those who like them really do. I like it. Blocky reliable, bombproof. Points slighly different you'll either love it or hate it. I really like this as a choice for first gun

I have also shot a few other 9mms from Colts, Radom of my fathers (I like this handgun and if you like older war era pistols give this one a look). All of the oldies are goodies and if you have a chance shoot some older type handguns like the Browning Hi-Power which is the one that many of these take from and they got it right the first time.

Hope this helps a bit. Just remember its your pistol and what works for you may not work for someone else so pistols are very personal in that regard.
 
Thanks Guys, this is exactly the feedback I am looking for. I have indeed picked-up a few pistols and for sure some feel good and some don't in my hand.Personal preference aside, is there any reason not to purchase a particular pistol?? safety issues? premature ware issues? etc.
 
What is the most popular pistol in production division? I am assuming production division because you are looking at a Shadow & M&P 9. I would look at that pistol first because it is popular for a reason ;).
 
Shadow will have most comfy grip and absorb recoil much better than lighter plastic guns, for a new shooter it'll be great benefit. It's one of the best-suited-for-IPSC guns too. Personally, I had 85 Combat but found it to bee TOO light for me, I shot Shadow much better. Shadow will require extra work to make weight for IDPA thou, if you plan on doing it too. IDPA has good following in AB.
Glock and M&P have great following and Glock would have the best selection of parts and accessories (holsters and so on), it has no mag disconnect either. M&P Pro would be my pick if going with M&P.
If looking at SIGs, SIG USPSA may be one of the better ones, but dunno about how available it is in Canada.
Either way, research what top IPSC/USPSA shooters use, try to at least hold the guns, ideally - rent and shoot them all that are on your short list, make your own choice.
 
I actually just ordered a CZ-75BD. The "D" in the name represents having a decocker.

This is important for me. If you want to compete against Glocks, M&Ps, etc, you need to start with your hammer down on a CZ. That means a manual decock on most models. (Pulling the trigger while holding the hammer and gently letting it down). With the BD model, you just flick a switch and you're good to go.

You do have the option of running a CZ cocked and locked instead. But then you are competing against guys with 1911s.
 
My advice is to borrow or rent as many guns as you can. I happened to be in a couple of US cities on business and rented at least 7 different handguns: HK USP, Glock 17, M&P 9, CZ75, Sig P226, 1911 etc. Before I tried them I was convinced I wanted a Sig P226 based on what I read on the Interwebs. When I actually shot one I found the grip was too wide for my small hands. I ended up shooting the best with the M&P, and bought an M&P 9 Pro from Badger for a good price. This is not to say that it's the best gun in any objective sense; just that it works the best for me.

My experience with my local gun club is that members are more than willing to let you shoot their guns. In fact, one very nice guy I know from work brought 6 pistols to the range for me to try the other day. It's polite to bring your own ammo or at least offer to pay for theirs.
 
Sig Sauer P226. It should be part of the licence exam "What is an acceptable first pistol purchase?"

A) Sig Sauer 1911 .45acp
B) IMI Desert Eagle .357 Magnum
C) Sig Sauer P226 9mm
D) Colt SAA .45 Colt

If you didn't answer C, you don't get a restricted licence!

haha, it's all in fun!

Buy whatever fits your hands the best, but it is likely there is a Sig model in 9mm that your hands will love!

+1 You can't go wrong with a Sig. IMHO the best pistols you can buy - reliable, durable and fairly easy to maintain. I've owned pistols from a lot the major makers but prefer Sig.
 
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