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Guisan posted this on the Swiss Rifles Message Board.
Zimmermann was famous as a marksman at that time.

Scores are for 300m, prone on top, kneeling in the middle, and standing on the bottom.
The man was no slouch!

The ten ring is around 4 inches in diameter( 10cm)
9 ring is 20cm, etc.


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"And what if I send TWO million of my German soldiers across your border?" - Kaiser Wilhelm II

"Each of my men will fire TWO shots and go home!" - the Swiss reply
 
smellie said:
"And what if I send TWO million of my German soldiers across your border?" - Kaiser Wilhelm II

"Each of my men will fire TWO shots and go home!" - the Swiss reply
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I'd would of loved to seen the look on his face. It would be quite interesting to se what would have happend if he did send in his troops . We would have likely never herd of Simo Hayha and Vasily Zaytsev as their feets would have been dwarfed by the Swiss.
 
Whatever guys. Swiss-Smish. You S-R fans are pretty naive to think wars are won by infantry rifles. FAR FAR FAR from it. WW1 was fought from trenches with fixed firing positions for machine guns, with mortars and most of all, withe long-range artillery that got more and more precise as the war went on.

Nothing new was invented with respect to artillery techniques in WW2, that's how good they got in WW1. The German Army in WW1 DWARFED the Swiss in artillery and materiel to support it. It would not at all have been a fair fight.

Germany staying out of Switzerland had more to do with it's strategic insignificance than a straight-pull rifle that while fun to shoot today, was never proven in battle and perhaps may have performed more like the Ross than the Mauser.

FWIW - I like the K31 very much, but let's not get all stupid about the might of the Swiss Army in 1914.
 
Claven is correct. Though mountainous, Switzerland would have been overrun. Kind of a David and Goliath thing except David having ping pong balls for his sling instead of stones.
But the Swiss could have mounted an awesome guerilla war against an occupier. That is where a man who knows the country, has the support of the population and can shoot will really shine.
 
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It would have been interesting. While the Germans would eventually have over-run Switzerland, it would probably have cost them much more than it was worth.

All the roads and passes and tunnels were mined with explosives. Bunkers and gun emplacements designed to look like farm houses and other buildings housed artillery. Sections of highways were widened and reinforced so that aircraft could have been operated from them. Areas were surveyed, ranged and targeted to the meter. Surveyed Artillery positions were made, and even today, highways are closed and artillery is fired from between the medians.

The Swiss could Mobilize with little difficulty, and practiced that Mobilization Plan frequently. Blocking roads would have had an effect on German mobility and armour. While the Germans did utilize Parachute Troops in Crete, that Battle was different and the British could probably have defeated the German Paratroops except for abandoning the Airfields and allowing the Germans to resupply by air. It was a very close thing, and cost the German Paratroopers heavily. I would have hated to be a German Paratrooper trying to invade Switzerland.

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Apparently both sides looked at Switzerland as a solution to trench warfare and both decided it would be too costly.
For the problems of fighting in the mountains, read about the Italian and Austro-Hungarian campaigns in the Southern Alps the Dolomites, on the Isonzo front.
 
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The swiss army wouldn't have stood a chance against the germans in 1940. Not enough artillery, tanks and airplanes.

But we most likely would have had enough time to blow up all the bridges leading south to Italy, which was what the germans wanted to use and which we wouldn't have given up intact. As noted before mobilization of the army would have been done in a few days with the first troops battle ready within 24 hours. In fact: this was done in 1939.

Also would it have been extremly difficult to fight a war up in the mountains against well trained soldiers who lived there all their life, so it would have cost the germans a lot.

Only right after the invasion of France the Germans had the strength to take Switzerland, afterwards they were busy elswhere.
 
A10 Target on left. Same measurements as ISSF, (Formerly U.I.T) 300m, A10 also uses max 5 scoring for Swiss military shoots.

 
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