...with rails right out to the end? That would be ideal for throwing on an 11 o'clock light. It looks like there might be enough meat to run a rail right to the very end, and then you could put on a VLTOR or Gear Sector or whatever light mount, and run it with your thumb without ever shifting your hand. I love the handguard but I need that light mount a tiny bit further forward.
What about a Gen 4 NEA handguard...
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I dont think its possible, because theres not enough material to cut the rail out of on the front of the rail without compromising integrity of the rail.However it looks like there is room for one more slot at the rear of the rail.
If they added more materiel to the rail, it would definatly be possible, but im not sure how much that would affect the cowitness.
If they added more materiel to the rail, it would definatly be possible, but im not sure how much that would affect the cowitness.
Honestly please can some 1 tell me why co-witness is so necessary?
I mean ether your eye is focused on the red dot or it's focused on the front post sight or it's focused on the target. Something always has to be your focal point. So how is it possible with 2 eye's to focus on the red dot, front & rear sight plus the target???
I don't get it...
I tried this set-up several time's, on multiple platforms and all the time I end up finding is my eye focussing on the red dot and the iron sight's ending up taking all most all of my field of view.
Now I can see the need for ditching a red dot if the battery dies so I can still use my iron sight's but then again that would be a mount issue not a co-witness issue.
So any one out there can tell me how about they get around this issue I have so I can understand what the big deal with co-witness is?
misanthropist, a NEA barrel clamp will give you the 11 o'clock position you're looking for. You will have to blacken at least the rear of the front sight post to cut down on the glare.
Put the dot on the target and pull the trigger. It sounds like you're really over-thinking the whole situation.
Satain said:
Put the dot on the target and pull the trigger. It sounds like you're really over-thinking the whole situation.
Do you mean absolute cowitness? Cowitness just means seeing the sight through the optic...the reason that is so popular is that it means you don't have to change your position much relative to the gun if your optic goes down.
Absolute cowitness is when your optic is centered exactly where your front sight is. It is fine on some systems but doesn't work well on the VZ.
Stevo I have looked at your setup before and it is a good solution. I am just looking for something a little lighter and a little cleaner.
The trouble with extending the rail forward is allowing the front end to "hinge" into place. I don't think it's possible to have it extend much farther forward given it's height.
I'm not talking about extending the rail...just cutting more slots
Okay, I gotcha now.
The top of the rail segments is already lower than the flat at the end. Plus the end portion is recessed underneath for piston clearance. I don't know if you can add any more segments without raising the overall rail height or having two different height areas.
The top of the rail segments is already lower than the flat at the end. Plus the end portion is recessed underneath for piston clearance. I don't know if you can add any more segments without raising the overall rail height or having two different height areas.
Maybe not...but if it were possible, that's what I'd want.
DrakeriderCa
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This has been kind of answered, but the idea with co-witnessing red dots (either absolute, or lower 1/3rd where the sights are in the bottom third of the sight picture of the red dot) is that if your red dot fails while you're shooting you don't have to change or do anything. You just shift the focus of your eyes from the dot to the sights. It isn't a mount issue because you aren't taking the red dot off. You're still looking through the glass, but you're just focusing on the sights. It actually makes the idea of "backup sights" worthwhile.
Yeah, I should have figured that.
That's okay, I have a new idea...for which I will require a 4" rail section!
And when the beep goes off and you bring your rifle up only to see you've forgotten to turn on your optic or your battery has gone dead, you're boned.
Co-witness has it's place.
Have you been shooting my rifle without me knowing? Damn, I thought they were locked up tight.
It doesn't obscure anything in a meaningful way, let alone the sights. The Sparc got removed as it doesn't allow co-witness.
For you, deploying from your lazy boy to repel the imaginary zombies from stealing your chips and twinkies......... yes co witness is not really useful. But for the Czech unit using our hand guards in afghanistan, they kinda of like having the versatility.
Also is that your handguards that they are using or is it TROY INDUSTRIES?
Troy doesn't make any VZ stuff.
