Greenhorse six
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What 's the down side of a mid-lenght gas system
what chambering would you be planing to offer???
what chambering would you be planing to offer???
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What about barrels?
- Thread starter alberta tactical rifle
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Not many people using irons anymore, so the sight radius doesn't matter a whole lot.
- Location
- calgary alberta
I tend to agree with what AbHobbyist says and keep things simple-
If we go overboard trying to make the exact barrel that every single
gun nut out there wants you'll bury yourself in hundreds of different
combinations of barrel length, twist, weight, etc. It will be a nightmare
to keep track of.
Absolutely correct
My understanding is that short barrels and barrels that are threaded are getting harder to import.
To produce some 7.5s, 10.5s 11.5s 14.5s and 16" barrels in either SPR or M4 type configurations may be worth looking into.
The questions I asked were simple.
What length and what twist?
I have no interest in making a bunch of 1 ofs, I have no manner to hard chrome anything, nor would want to.
The plan MAY be to get some 224 caliber stainless 5R barrels in and contour them into normal contours. Standard chambers in standard lengths with pin in place gas blocks and threaded for muzzle brakes/flash hiders, nothing more.
I need to order more barrels for other projects so thought I may order some additional blanks to turn into AR barrels, hence my asking questions.
- Location
- Vernon, BC
Jamie said:
Gentlemen:
With all due respect, I detect a distinct edge to the above request, and if I have misconstrued the above, please feel free to rebut, however, would you both be so polite as to please explain the reasoning behind your request.
I think of myself as an intelligent individual, and I think we would all agree you use the correct tool for the job at hand. With this in mind, when did a 10.25" barreled carbine ever become a precision rifle?? Are not the general purpose/mission parameters of a 10.25 barreled carbines (most of which do not have magnified optics) to function as a CQB tool, within 200 meters or less ?? ?? With that in mind, and the munitions used, (a 77 grain SMK), and the rate of twist (1-9) would the above results not be considered outstanding??
respectfully your
AbH
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- Location
- Victoria, BC
+1
This is what I would really like. 5.56mm, gov't profile, etc. I'd buy at least three ... 11.5", 14.5" and 20". I realize it's not what you are inquiring about, though.
For what you are discussing, I'd say 16" or 18" mid-weight barrels in 1/7 or 1/8 with 5.56 NATO chambers would be something I would buy at least one of.
I'm guessing you've fallen asleep at your computer because if I recall, the last time Alberta Tactical Rifle posted a thread very similar to this, we took a ton of orders on AR-15 lowers and they are now in current production. If you haven't heard of Alberta Tactical Rifle, google search us and you will find that we're the fastest growing rifle manufacturer in Canada so, in short, this thread is not worthless since we're the Canadian importer and dealer for Rock Creek barrels and since parts are getting harder to import servicing the Canadian civilian class isn't such a pointless thing to do after all. Now STFU and STFU!!!
- Location
- Dah Soo,ON
Ooof a dealer who also puts sh*thead posters in there place! Thats what I like to see. It urks me to see some numbnuts poster ripping into a dealer on here or in person and the dealer has enough restraint to say "yes sir, Im sorry sir, blah, blah" poor guy...Dont take no sh*t Glock-a-maniac!
Gunnerlove
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Vancouver Island
Beats the hell out of the last C-7 I shot.
- Location
- calgary alberta
I just chose to ignore him. Trolls seem to come and go all the time, don't sweat it. It is funny to see the calmer and less emotional 1 of the 2 of us unspool on some dip though
Realize that all you asked for was twist and length but I think that you should give a lot of thought to the profile and chamber as well.
I have an 11.5 HBAR and it is ridiculously heavy for such a short weapon, so much so that I'm going to have it reprofiled to .740 under the handguards when I get the chance. Most people don't want HBARs and many consider goverment profile too thin under the handguards, espcecially for stainless. You'll have to figure out for yourself what the demand is. The same guy who wants the heavier SPR profile on his 18" barrel may want government profile on his 10.25" barrel.
Chambers are important to a lot of people as well. Personally I won't buy a barrel with a .223 chamber, for me it must be 5.56mm or .223 Wylde. Their may be som demand for some other calibers like 6.5 Grendel or 6.8SPC, not sure if it would be worth it though.
M203 cutouts are completely useless to 99.999% of us, yet for some reason a lot of people want them, not sure why, I prefer them without the cutouts myself.
People seem to be saying no to the standard FSB, that may alienate a lot of people who don't want to spend the money on optics, or drop an extra hundred bucks to buy a picatinny front sight. Personally I think that the standard front sight base should be at least an offering to those that want it.
Do you plan on leaving these shiny, blasted, oxided, coated?
Way too many variables out there and as this thread easily shows, barely anyone wants the same thing. I wish you luck in sorting through it all.
I have an 11.5 HBAR and it is ridiculously heavy for such a short weapon, so much so that I'm going to have it reprofiled to .740 under the handguards when I get the chance. Most people don't want HBARs and many consider goverment profile too thin under the handguards, espcecially for stainless. You'll have to figure out for yourself what the demand is. The same guy who wants the heavier SPR profile on his 18" barrel may want government profile on his 10.25" barrel.
Chambers are important to a lot of people as well. Personally I won't buy a barrel with a .223 chamber, for me it must be 5.56mm or .223 Wylde. Their may be som demand for some other calibers like 6.5 Grendel or 6.8SPC, not sure if it would be worth it though.
M203 cutouts are completely useless to 99.999% of us, yet for some reason a lot of people want them, not sure why, I prefer them without the cutouts myself.
People seem to be saying no to the standard FSB, that may alienate a lot of people who don't want to spend the money on optics, or drop an extra hundred bucks to buy a picatinny front sight. Personally I think that the standard front sight base should be at least an offering to those that want it.
Do you plan on leaving these shiny, blasted, oxided, coated?
Way too many variables out there and as this thread easily shows, barely anyone wants the same thing. I wish you luck in sorting through it all.
dangertree
Business Rep
- Location
- NL/ON/FL/PL
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Rifle length gas
18" stainless SPR in 1/8
Medium contour
Can't or won't do Wylde?
Oh my good LORD i'm still excited!
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- Location
- WMU248 near Edmonton
Oh my good LORD i'm excited!
How about this to start, I was talking to Denny a while back and he cannot keep up with the demand at all, seriously popular, also the BCM, CMMG barrels in this profile just can't keep up:
The OPERATOR is a Dennys Guns/GTS exclusive.
THIS PACKAGE INCLUDES THE BARREL AND GAS TUBE AND DELTA RING ASSEMBLY
The barrel is a 16.1 INCH Mid Length gas. The blanks are Rockcreek(Mike Rock). The barrel steel is 4150 Chrome Vanadium, full auto rated.
These barrels are fully chrome lined, bore and chamber by US Chrome, who does Colt and most other top line tier one manufacturers barrels
1:7 twist.
MP tested.
Proprietary profile, mid weight with a slight taper from chamber to the gas block.
Weight of barrel: 2.5 Lbs approx.
M4 barrel extensions.
F front sight, pinned.
5.56 NATO chamber.
Barrels will be parked under the front sight base.
Threaded 1/2X28(standard M16 thread) A2 flash hider included.
I'm fortunate enough to have this and it preforms extremely well, and its close to the m4 socom, makes my heart glad to know im set for the zombies
If i were to get another however
Full length gas..... i could use a 12" RAIL and still use a pinned fsb if i wanted
18" stainless SPR in 1/7
but true light weight contour, the balance is perfect
And a .22lr option would make me pee...... 4sure
Oh my good LORD i'm excited!
Hmmm that's exactly what I was thinking, 16" midlenght, mid weight, 1 in 7
No edge from me. I'd like to see groups from a 1:9 twist barrel shooting the heavier stuff out past 100m, be it a 10" or a 20" barrel.
Based on my experience with the Sig (1:10), longer bullets can perform well inside 300m and then inexplicably sh!t the bed from 400m and on.
If 1:9s are closer to 1:8.5 Im genuinely interested in knowing how they perform.
