What about the old 303!!!!
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Johnn Peterson
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- Chemainus B.C.
This one is almost the same as the Simpon-Sears 'custom' special I started out with,
a few years back.
Since those early initial years starting out, I've always managed to have one in the safe. I picked up this MINT Jungle Carbine with 'trimmings' a while back and is the most recent and present member of my little harem.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
This one is almost the same as the Simpon-Sears 'custom' special I started out with,My 1st center fire was just like yours & it shot very true with Mk VII ammo, I dumped a fair pile of deer & other critters using that ammo. Most folks figure that hard points are pin holers & unethical for hunting, but the Mk VII's I used would tumble upon entry and create a better wound channel than any commercial ammo I tried back then.
Growing up in an ammo depot with 4000 acres of private hunting area sure had it's advantages fer sure, along with a healthy supply of free ammo.
If ye get bored of that No 1 Mk III Johnn, please let me know.
Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Chemainus B.C.
This one is almost the same as the Simpon-Sears 'custom' special I started out with,My 1st center fire was just like yours & it shot very true with Mk VII ammo, I dumped a fair pile of deer & other critters using that ammo. Most folks figure that hard points are pin holers & unethical for hunting, but the Mk VII's I used would tumble upon entry and create a better wound channel than any commercial ammo I tried back then.
Growing up in an ammo depot with 4000 acres of private hunting area sure had it's advantages fer sure, along with a healthy supply of free ammo.
If ye get bored of that No 1 Mk III Johnn, please let me know.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
This one is almost the same as the Simpon-Sears 'custom' special I started out with,
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Dang, too bad . I'll have to keep me eyes peeled fer one like that. Had one of those 311's in 12 ga. in the late 70's. Pretty basic sxs, but it worked good on grouse.
Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Chemainus B.C.
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Dang, too bad . I'll have to keep me eyes peeled fer one like that. Had one of those 311's in 12 ga. in the late 70's. Pretty basic sxs, but it worked good on grouse.
Yes, it is that for sure,
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Dang, too bad . I'll have to keep me eyes peeled fer one like that. Had one of those 311's in 12 ga. in the late 70's. Pretty basic sxs, but it worked good on grouse.
Those were often seen at weddings also..
Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Chemainus B.C.
That's what we've come to call the ones usually spotted on the side of the road when we're cruising around in the afternoons on Moose trips, scouting for possibilities for the next days hunt. Camp meat.
Oh, on one return back to our hunting cabin, another breed of 'Ditch Chickens', Spruce Grouse, were feeding on berries in the front yard.
Since this is the "Hunting and Sporting Arms" and the vast majority of folk in this section would be hunting deer and/or big game, your comparison between the M1 30-06 and No4 LE 303 does not apply here.
While the M1 would be a better battle rifle, I would NOT lug one of those 10 pounders around for sporting purpose, choosing a sporter 303 every time.
Brutus
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So, using your very own ruler, the OP's comments regarding the use of the 303 in past battles also has no bearing on this sub-forum.
Correct?
The OP made reference to the military history of the 303 and it's connection to Canadian troops. Not sure about my "very own ruler" in this but rather wanted to state how the LE 303 was a better rifle than the M1 for CDN hunters post WWII. Dirt cheap pricing of the 303s here in Canada had much to do with it and the fact that a 303 could be easily sporterized into a much lighter/handier rifle than the M1.
I was referring to the "dirt cheap pricing" of 303 rifles, not ammo. Most hunters don't use (and should not use) military surplus ammo for sporting use anyways.
I'm sorry if I have touched a nerve with my disagreement with your premise that the M1 30-06 is a better sporting rifle than the LE 303. It was not my intent to flame you, but it cannot be mistaken that millions of Canadians have chosen the 303 in the last 70yrs since WWII for sporting use and for several good reasons.
I will not reply further to this thread.
The modern, hyped up beyond all reason age ye mean. Fook it! I done a pile of good hunting with a No.1 Mk3 back in my youth and the rifle never let me down & folks that have a good shooter have nothing to worry about as far as game getting goes.
No I mean the modern age of inexpensive sporting rifles and inexpensive readily available factory ammo... why the heck would one choose a .303 today, over say, a .308 or .30/06... that makes zero sense... UNLESS you just want one cuz you want one... I've bought many, many rifles that only made sense to me...
A shortened, lightened sporter 303 (like the ones Globe sold back in the day) or a Lee Speed etc is a great handling, soft shooting gun that punches a bit above its weight class IMO.
My father used a Globe sporter of a No 4 Enfield for as long as I can remember, and it put a lot of meat in the freezer for us. Remember thinking it was about the best rifle in the world when I was a child.
Maybe mine in the safe are better today, but it can still for sure get the job done, without a lot of abuse on the shoulder and inside just about any hunting distances here. Still a popular, low cost option.
Having taken a few deer with a Garand as well just to say I did (and I very much liked the aperture irons) SuperCub sure has a point about the Enfield being the nicer, easier carry gun!
My father used a Globe sporter of a No 4 Enfield for as long as I can remember, and it put a lot of meat in the freezer for us. Remember thinking it was about the best rifle in the world when I was a child.
Maybe mine in the safe are better today, but it can still for sure get the job done, without a lot of abuse on the shoulder and inside just about any hunting distances here. Still a popular, low cost option.
Having taken a few deer with a Garand as well just to say I did (and I very much liked the aperture irons) SuperCub sure has a point about the Enfield being the nicer, easier carry gun!
