Looking to find a rifle and rebarrel it in 9.3x62 or maybe 35 whelen but I don't have an action lined up yet and I was wondering what action you would build it on, price is a factor, so far I've seen the obvious Ruger, win. remington and also a CZ 537, a Sako trg-s, a Mauser, how would you build this while still keeping the cost in check.
What action for 9.3x62
- Thread starter MaxKW
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If I were to build another 9.3X62, I'd find a commercial Mauser 98(FN, Santa Barbara, Parher-Hale, etc) donor rifle and get Barry at Bits of Pieces to screw on a Heym pre-chamber, pre-threaded 98 barrel. They list on his site for $250.00. Of course installation and bluing would be extra.
I am thinking of doing something similair one in 7x57 and another 9.3 or 375H&H for those freakin Elk that are so hard to kill.
I think of going with a Montana action from Bits of pieces and a Heym barrel.
Not sure yet, for a stock I am gonna go with something really classic but have not made up my mind yet.
If i can find a win mod 70 action at a good price I would consider that for the 7x57. sadly the money is not there right now.
I think of going with a Montana action from Bits of pieces and a Heym barrel.
Not sure yet, for a stock I am gonna go with something really classic but have not made up my mind yet.
If i can find a win mod 70 action at a good price I would consider that for the 7x57. sadly the money is not there right now.
Beaver Skin
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- Lower Mainland, BC
I went back and forth with that same question - I ended up with going with a ZG-47 action. Unfortunately, thats as far as I've got!
mopar guy said:
X2!
Make sure it is a '98 Mauser action though, he has alot of Stigas there too, which are the '96 Mauser. They are really good value for the investment.
Even if you find a 9,3x57 you really like in a HUsky 146, you could get it rechambered and you are ready to go without any other mods (action wise).
One note though, be sure to get the action glass bedded so you don't have happen what I did.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
I'd use an 1885 action, myself!
Cat
Cat
Noel said:X2!
Make sure it is a '98 Mauser action though, he has alot of Stigas there too, which are the '96 Mauser. They are really good value for the investment.
Even if you find a 9,3x57 you really like in a HUsky 146, you could get it rechambered and you are ready to go without any other mods (action wise).
One note though, be sure to get the action glass bedded so you don't have happen what I did.
I agree to an extent:
They have one 9.3x62 left in stock with a crack at the tang because it was never glass bedded, it's a small ring 96. Any of the old rifles you should bed. Boyds has nice drop in laminate stocks for $65us. Tradex or brownells sells replacement side safeties.
The small ring 96 mauser isn't that bad, thousands were factory chambered in 9.3x62 with no problems. If you buy their last one or find a factory one I wouldn't hesitate, I have one and it's a beauty. That being said, if you want to buy a 9.3x57 and ream it out to 9.3x62 I'd certainly buy a large ring 98 mauser for the extra safety, #### on open blah blah blah.
Also, firearmscanada.com right now, about 3 pages into the buy and sell, has a Parker Hale 30-06 for $300 in minty shape (no it's not mine.) If you buy that it's a simple barrel job at any of a hundred gunsmiths and you'll have a 338-06 or a 35 Whelen. No feeding work or mag work required, no bolt bending, no safety changes, and it's already drilled/tapped. If you don't mind a SS barrel on a blue action you can have it done and not have to pay for re-blueing.
Furthermore, if you buy one of the 9.3x57 98 mausers you can ream it out to 9.3x64, then you're on par, give or take, with a 375HH with no pressure or safety problems! I don't want to get in debate of cartridges so here's A Square's factory ammo balistics:
9.3x62 286gr 2360fps
9.3x64 286gr 2700fps
375HH 300gr 2550fps
Good luck
Keep us posted
Mopar Guy
I called Martini&Hagn about the 64 Brenneke rechambering. They wouldn't do it with the 146 barrel as they felt there is not enough meat in the barrel to run that high a pressure cartridge. FWIW, the Brennek I was told is quite a bit hotter than the 9,3x62. (higher pressures).
My Husky 146 would have also needed mods to the magazine box to fit the longer Brenneke case.
My Brno ZG47 is the only mag box I've seen so far that will readily hold and feed the longer 64 case.
Mopar Guy, how did you fit the 64 Brenneke in yours?
Noel
My Husky 146 would have also needed mods to the magazine box to fit the longer Brenneke case.
My Brno ZG47 is the only mag box I've seen so far that will readily hold and feed the longer 64 case.
Mopar Guy, how did you fit the 64 Brenneke in yours?
Noel
Noel,
Sorry I just sent it out the other day, I haven't heard yet, I did hear concerns about the mag box though.
Industry standard is 63000psi, it is a tad high in an action with metal cut out, similar to a 375HH conversion, but it was made for 30-06 length mauser 98's. Is your 146 at mauser 96? Then I'd be hesitant on the conversion. But in an uncut good quality 98 there should be no problem, remember that hundreds of 375HH and 300HH conversions have been done on basic length 98 actions (some better than others.) Also the average max velocity reload on 30-06's runs around 58000psi, many at 60000psi according to the Lee handbook, not that far behind the Brenneke.
And the col is 3.37", just 3/100 larger than a 30-06. Any 98 mag box that fits the 30-06 should have 1/8" extra room and fit the Brenneke easily. I gotta admit I never measured my mag box, if the 9.3x57's came with shorter mag boxes I'm just going to buy a new one on ebay in 30-06 length and use the 9.3x57 follower. There should also be room to cut out metal from the mag box in the front and back if need be. I plan on replacing the mag box/trigger anyway with a unit from brownells with a drop mag.
Mopar Guy
Sorry I just sent it out the other day, I haven't heard yet, I did hear concerns about the mag box though.
Industry standard is 63000psi, it is a tad high in an action with metal cut out, similar to a 375HH conversion, but it was made for 30-06 length mauser 98's. Is your 146 at mauser 96? Then I'd be hesitant on the conversion. But in an uncut good quality 98 there should be no problem, remember that hundreds of 375HH and 300HH conversions have been done on basic length 98 actions (some better than others.) Also the average max velocity reload on 30-06's runs around 58000psi, many at 60000psi according to the Lee handbook, not that far behind the Brenneke.
And the col is 3.37", just 3/100 larger than a 30-06. Any 98 mag box that fits the 30-06 should have 1/8" extra room and fit the Brenneke easily. I gotta admit I never measured my mag box, if the 9.3x57's came with shorter mag boxes I'm just going to buy a new one on ebay in 30-06 length and use the 9.3x57 follower. There should also be room to cut out metal from the mag box in the front and back if need be. I plan on replacing the mag box/trigger anyway with a unit from brownells with a drop mag.
Mopar Guy
Noel, followed up and the 9.3x57 magbox is 3.315" in the middle and 3.29" at the sides. With careful grinding of the box you should be able to free up enough room without grinding anything away at the action. Or Numrich offeres used 30-06/magnum length trigger guards/floor plates for $64 that'll drop in, and Brownells offers brand new trigger guard mag boxes for $78 and the floor plate for $26. It's not alot of work, but not the walk in the park I originally surmised.
Mopar Guy
Mopar Guy
Thanks Mopar Guy! My 146 measured just as your info does!
My Brno ZG47 is already a 9,3x62, the mag is a bit over 3.4" somewhere giving me lots of room to Brenneke it. I haven't tried the rifle as is yet so I have no plans of rechambering.
There would likely be a lynch mob formed if I did anyway by other CGNer's here. Apparently the rifle is quite rare in this chambering.
I am going to make full use of the long mag to try and reach the lands and perhaps be able to cheat for a bit more powder capacity.
My favorite part for the ZG47 platform is it has the square bridge so if one likes to have the use of their iron sights, or swaps out their scopes it is a cinch.
Keep in mind, SuperCub got those steel Weaver style bases from ################ and really likes them too!
The ZG's aren't real easy to find, but by far worth it if you do, they are very nice! That's what I'd be looking for had I to do it again!
Cheers,
Noel
My Brno ZG47 is already a 9,3x62, the mag is a bit over 3.4" somewhere giving me lots of room to Brenneke it. I haven't tried the rifle as is yet so I have no plans of rechambering.
There would likely be a lynch mob formed if I did anyway by other CGNer's here. Apparently the rifle is quite rare in this chambering.
I am going to make full use of the long mag to try and reach the lands and perhaps be able to cheat for a bit more powder capacity.
My favorite part for the ZG47 platform is it has the square bridge so if one likes to have the use of their iron sights, or swaps out their scopes it is a cinch.
Keep in mind, SuperCub got those steel Weaver style bases from ################ and really likes them too!
The ZG's aren't real easy to find, but by far worth it if you do, they are very nice! That's what I'd be looking for had I to do it again!
Cheers,
Noel
I forgot to mention, I did a seach on google regarding this topic. Ended up at the Campfire thread, a fellow in BC used a Comercial Mauser and did not have to modify his mag at all, just open the bolt face.
FWIW
FWIW
Noel said:
Noel I imagine that'll work but then wouldn't it just be a single shot? If you couldn't fit any rounds in the mag?
And your Brno is the best mauser made in more than just my opinion, by many people. Considering equivalent mounts on any old military or commercial one will cost likely $1000 installed (for quick release.) Although the new CZ 550 is supposed to be on par with it, but it isn't cheap.
And your Brno is probably worth the better half of $1000 and extremely rare so someone looking to get into one of these neat European cartridges on a budget can't go wrong with one of the Tradex ones I think.
I'll keep you posted with my conversion work.
Mopar Guy
