What air guns are now prohibited

antiqueguy said:
Would something like the umarex legends be prohibited under c21?
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Yes, it appears that the Umarex Legend series of replica airguns would be prohibited under C21 if it becomes law. If you want to own one then now is the time to buy. IF the law comes into enforcement then apparently you can still own and enjoy but cannot sell, give away, trade or buy more. Many non-PAL airguns could become prohibited if a PAL version exists such as the Crosman 1377, Crosman 2289, Crosman Optimus and all the airguns detuned for the Canadian non-PAL market. They all exactly resemble the full powered version of the airguns (firearms). Usually the RPAL version of an airgun is not available in Canada. But the detuned non-PAL still exactly resembles an RPAL firearm version.

The definition replica firearm in subsection 84(1) of the Act is replaced by the following:
replica firearm means any device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm that is designed or adapted to discharge a shot, bullet or other projectile at a muzzle velocity exceeding 152.#4 m per second and at a muzzle energy exceeding 5.#7 Joules, and that itself is not a firearm, but does not include any such device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm; (réplique).
https://parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/bill/C-21/third-reading

It appears that the intention is to allow you to continue ownership but no further transfers or acquisitions. We will have to see how this part plays out.
https://www.ofah.org/firearms/bill-c-21/

The other replies to your question explain how the current law applies to the Umarex Legend series of airguns.
 
I thought the whole purpose of banning replicas was due to some parts being used in the manufacture of ghost guns. Detuned air rifles and pistols that dont resemble a powder burner wont be under the same restrictions.
 
garmic said:
I thought the whole purpose of banning replicas was due to some parts being used in the manufacture of ghost guns. Detuned air rifles and pistols that dont resemble a powder burner wont be under the same restrictions.
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The ghost gun parts could be one "reason" for the ban. Another could be the use of replica airguns during the commission of a crime. Some unstable people have made the mistake of pointing a replica at the police and received death by blue.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/airsoft-guns-canada-bill-c21-1.6781538

The way Bill C21 is worded there is no requirement for the firearm being replicated to be a powder burner. Unfortunately, the wording allows for the firearm being resembled to be another airgun. Maybe that wasn't the intention but the wording could have been amended when this fact was pointed out a while back.

The replica airguns have been around since maybe the late 50s and mid 60s with the Crosman 38T, the single action revolver replicas and the Mark-1. There must be a monstrous amount of replica airguns in Canada so a firm "no ownership" ban wouldn't work. I'm guessing that's why owners are allowed to maintain ownership but can't sell. That's difficult to monitor for an item that has never been registered and could be 60 years old.
 
garmic said:
I thought the whole purpose of banning replicas was due to some parts being used in the manufacture of ghost guns. Detuned air rifles and pistols that dont resemble a powder burner wont be under the same restrictions.
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I suspect the real reason for banning replicas is to further remove firearms from being socially acceptable. All part of social engineering a gun free Canada :(
 
OkayShooter said:
https://youtu.be/G-Qjbkkfu5Y?si=ioal2ZGmSoFsTnOt

AGS video on how airguns will effected by C21. Like I said. Its death of SUB 500 airguns. You buy a 1911, 4.5mm C02 it would be a replica of my real 45 acp 1911.
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That's a great vid thx.

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Before that I believe the argument was... it wasn't considered a "Firearm" under their own definition.

Firearms and Other Weapons
Interpretation

Criminal Code - R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46 (Section 84)

84 (1)

(3) For the purposes of sections 91 to 95, 99 to 101, 103 to 107 and 117.03 of this Act and the provisions of the Firearms Act, the following weapons are deemed not to be firearms:


(d) any other barrelled weapon, where it is proved that the weapon is not designed or adapted to discharge

(i) a shot, bullet or other projectile at a muzzle velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second (500fps) or at a muzzle energy exceeding 5.7 Joules (4.2 ft/lbs), or

(ii) a shot, bullet or other projectile that is designed or adapted to attain a velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or an energy exceeding 5.7 Joules.
 
Most people wouldn't know the difference between a real firearm and an airgun. For most people, if it looks like a gun, it is a gun. Even police won't be able to the the difference between a hunting air rifle and a bolt action 22 LR from 20 ft. My HW97T nickel plated with Synthetic stock and scope looks nasty to the untrained eye.
 
Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.
So of it looks like an AK...then it would prohibited..nice!..or AR..OR 1911..and on..and..on..
 
antiqueguy said:
So something like a red Ryder is now prohibited?
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That's just silly, unless it's been extensively modded a Red Ryder doesn't look like a 'real gun' - but neither does my Armalite AR-7, and it IS a real gun, a semi with Over 5-round mag.
And the Crosman 2240 doesn't look 'like a real gun' but they Can Be boosted over 500, easily with a longer barrel and/or other mods.
 
So are airsoft guns supposed to have the little red knob on the muzzle? I certainly see no shortage of realistic looking airsoft guns being freely sold.
 
Pocisk said:
So are airsoft guns supposed to have the little red knob on the muzzle? I certainly see no shortage of realistic looking airsoft guns being freely sold.
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Post first, research later lol. I see now that airsoft was specifically exempted from C21, apparently by the NDP's amendment, of all people. I guess Jagmeet enjoys him some airsoft.
 
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