What am I after??? no comprimise bolt gun.

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Not real sure what I should be looking for. What I think I want:

22" bbl
iron sights, if possible
detachable mag
.270 win or 30-06
no plastic moving parts, steel trigger gaurd ect.
would however like a composite stock, maybe even stainless.
100% reliable, take reliablility over one hole precision any day of the week.

$2000-$3000 no problem

so what should I start looking at? Sako, Sauer, what else??
 
The Sako is a good choice... but give up on the "no compromise" concept... right now you only "think you know" what you want, and even if you did know, your opinion would change in short order... just choose the gun with :the most" favorable features and then make them work... if you stick to the "no compromise" concept you will be buying a new gun every six months or so (not that there is anything wrong with that... in case my wife has taken to reading CGN).
 
hoytcanon said:
The Sako is a good choice... but give up on the "no compromise" concept... right now you only "think you know" what you want, and even if you did know, your opinion would change in short order... just choose the gun with :the most" favorable features and then make them work... if you stick to the "no compromise" concept you will be buying a new gun every six months or so (not that there is anything wrong with that... in case my wife has taken to reading CGN).
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haha fair enough

that black bear looks good

mostly after something that does not feel like a savage or rem... something a cut above in quality, workmanship and design.
 
No compromise: Steyr-Mannlicher.
The bolt feels like it moves on ball bearings. Not all sloppy and loose.
Steyr has an EXCELLENT trigger as well as being a precision shooter.
 
To me no compromise means built to fit you, your choice of stock pattern and dimensions; color, barrel contour, length, trigger, etc. The only way to meet those requirements, is to have it built for you.
 
Very much doubt you'll find a steel trigger guard these days. It's not a critical part. Nor are you likely to find plastic moving parts. In any case, you've described most modern hunting rifles. Go shopping.
 
try a cooper excalibre. maybe not as much fun as building one but phophet river should supply one in a couple of weeks. under budget too.
 
At that price build your own. Maybe a M70 SS with whatever bottom metal you choose, whatever sights you choose and maybe a McMillan Echols pattern....
 
I have an exquisite custom made 7x57 built around a small-ring FN commerical 98 action. It's very special, but expect a LONG wait if you want to go this route. There are only a handful of gunsmiths that can craft these beauties, and these guys are in high demand.

To the OP, if this is your first rifle, I would still suggest you go the Sako or Cooper route. Enjoy a premium production rifle, and if you still crave a one-of-a-kind custom, go for it.
 
If open sights are a requirement and you're going with a factory rifle, you'll pretty much have to stick to European manufacturers. There are a handful of North American rifles with open sights, but they're usually only found on the big bores and they're generally crap.
 
Kevan said:
Forbes 24B..... absolutely plain, no frills, strictly meant to be a working rifle.
Light enough to carry all day and consistently accurate..
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I was waiting for the 20B to arrive and did a bit of reading that makes me concerned. Have you seen the review on 24hr Campfire?
 
Blaser. R93 or the new R8. If you have the money and don't check one out, you are doing yourself a huge disservice. This is how a swap barrel gun should function. Super accurate, mines .5 inch with either barrel I own. Super simple to breakdown. Straight pull bolt which is super fast to operate. Collete lock up system means no rotational force on your bullet like a regular turn bolt does. Super light, my .308 set up is 6.5 pds, while my .257 Roy is about 7 because of the longer barrel. Barrels are 22.5 or 25.5 inches long BUT because of the very good design, the magazine is above the trigger, not forward of the trigger, and this has the effect of shortening the gun by 3 or so inches, so it feels very tight and compact. Unlike most other guns nowadays, it comes with standard iron sites, in the safari configuration, meaning when you remove the absolute guaranteed return to zero removable mounts, you can use the sites when you are tracking. I find it very convienient when I'm tracking bear. And the mounts return to zero every time. I've tested it and the saddle system works perfectly. I have never ever had a misfeed. And I mean that. Never. The design is such that the next round feeds directly straight in. No feed ramp. That completely eliminates any misfeeds as there is nothing to catch on. Its controlled feed. The trigger is absolute zero creep. I've used many triggers, and even Timneys feel mushy when compared. This thing is off, then it's on. You can't feel any transition to the fired position. The gun doesn't have a "safety" per se, but has a switch at the rear of the bolt that cocks the rifle, in absolute silence, when you engage it. No annoying loud click. And it means you can carry the rifle with a round in the chamber and there is no chance of accidental detonation. Zero.

The R93 is what I have and I've had it for 10 years and I will not give it up. It's my goto rifle, and I've got lots of good rifles.... My Mauser and my Steyr and my Sauer were sold once I got a Blaser. The R8 is basically the same gun, except it was redesigned with a removable mag. To keep the rifle short, the magazine comes out with the trigger, and each new mag has a trigger attached. I've never held this model yet.

Go do some reading and handle this rifle. Nothing gets close.

Here's the Chuck Hawkes write up::

ht tp://www.chuckhawks.com/blaser_R93_rifles.htm
 
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