What ard you using?

[adrian118]

Hey guys.

So i went to an outdoor range today and took my norc ar to 100 yards using a bushnell trs25.
I had about 7inch groupings and it only got worse the at further distances. My question is should i get a magnifier to get better groupings because it was quite hard to see the target at times. Or any suggestions?
What are you using for your ar?

Sorry for the complete noob question. I want to start long range. Never shot at 100 before.

 

[Ar180shooter]

Sounds like you just need more practice. With my Aimpoint Micro (4MOA) on my Swiss Arms, I could keep the groups at around 2-3".

 

[Jamie]

first thing ammo? position ? dot size 3 or 5 moa and how bright was your dot set?

 

[adrian118]

first thing ammo? position ? dot size 3 or 5 moa and how bright was your dot set?

it was the Remington bulk pack. 55gr.
i was standing up because i had some back problems so its hard to sit.
the brightness was 6 and moa is 3.

 

[adrian118]

Sounds like you just need more practice. With my Aimpoint Micro (4MOA) on my Swiss Arms, I could keep the groups at around 2-3".

how far have you shot with just the red dot?

 

[Throttle_monkey1]

7 inch groups at 100m while standing is not all that bad.

 

[Ar180shooter]

7 inch groups at 100m while standing is not all that bad.

Yah, didn't realize he was standing. My groups were benched.

 

[Ar180shooter]

how far have you shot with just the red dot?

Those groups were at 100 yards. I've taken it to around 200 yards with the red dot. Using a 1-4x scope, I've taken my rifle out to 550 yards (red dot was on my Carbine, it now has an EOTech).

 

[themikea]

That's a pretty good for 100m and standing! Would be interesting to shoot a group from the bench immediately after and see the difference in your results.

 

[adrian118]

hah well now i dont feel so bad. i thought it was really bad. next time i head out ill try sitting down. see what i can get.
thanks for the responses!

 

[Ar180shooter]

That's a pretty good for 100m and standing! Would be interesting to shoot a group from the bench immediately after and see the difference in your results.

They would probably be half the size or less. 7MOA standing is actually pretty decent. If you think about it, maintaining 7MOA, you'd be capable of getting a 2nd round hit on a man sized target at 300yards... Standing.

 

[cr5]

That's good for a standing group.
Buy a gun rest and a bag for under the stock and your groups will shrink. You can also make shooting bags with breadbags inside gym socks full of sand.
Better ammo and a magnified scope with a fine reticle will shrink the groups even more.
Don't get your hopes up too high though, a norc with a 14.5 inch barrel is never going to give better than 2-3 inch groups at 100yds but that isn't bad for a short AR with a cheap barrel. Some are better than others though and if you get lucky and find ammo it likes you may get slightly better results.

No matter what gun you use the further you go the bigger the groups. No way around that one.

Good luck