What are the short coming of a 26 Nosler and x-bolt mcmillan

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Thoughts on the 26 nosler and x-bolt McMillan?

Faster than the 6.5 RPM, & 6.5PRC...the 26 Nosler has been out for awhile so what are its short comings?

Browning x-bolt McMillan trigger lowest setting 3lbs is a fail IMHO, are there after market trigger tune-ups available?

Reviews on the Browning X-bolt look good, just haven't yet ever bought one...Browning promotes these as custom rifle grade accuracy at a cost of a couple thousand less.

What kind of accuracy are guys getting in the real world?

What's the quality control and build quality like on the X-bolts?

If you own one, would you recommend it to a friend?

Thx in advance for your input.
 
26 nosler = throat erosion. Lots of powder burning down a narrow hole.

Bonded or monolithic bullets a must, cup and core WAY out of the question, in my opinion. Unless lead and copper fragments spread completely through your game is your game.

Mcarbo trigger springs are said by some to be helpful in bringing the pull weight down. I haven’t tried them, would like to though. I have found improvised springs that work for now, may look into mcarbo springs in the future. There are also complete aftermarket triggers available, haven’t tried those either, I like the gold trigger too much, haha.

I have two x bolts, a hells canyon speed and a micro composite, both in 6.5cm (what is this variety people speak of??). Both are 0.75” 5 shot groups at 100 yards, and I’m not what I’d call exceptional at shooting groups. That’s with handloads, with Hornady precision hunter they’ll both do 0.75” 3 shot groups at 100 yards, 5 shots are around 1”. Cold bore shots at 320 and 430 yards are bang on every time. I am completely confident in both of them. This is prone off of a pack using a rear bag. I didn’t do very extensive load development. I developed the load for the HCS, got it to shoot to where I was happy with it and called it good. I just tried the exact same load in the micro and it liked it too. Keeps things simple. They might have more accuracy in them, but I’m very happy with them as is.

The cerakote on my hells canyon speed chipped where the bolt lever contacts the receiver. I run my bolt like I mean it, I could not foresee any coating surviving at that metal to metal contact point. It has not chipped anywhere else. The bolt release button on my micro is not the same shade of blueing as the rest of it, nice, on a $1100 rifle. I don’t really care though because I like the rifle so much. I have never had a single issue with either of mine, they’ve both seen around 300-400 rounds, almost entirely handloads.

I don’t own a McMillan, but x bolts are pretty much the only bolt actions I’ll buy going foreword. I find the fit and ergonomics perfect for me, might be different for others though.

Only real complains I have is I find the plastic mag cheesy. Not that they aren’t functional or durable, I just feel like on what I consider a premium rifle a metal mag should be supplied. Heck, my savage 10 with the accustock has an all metal mag, it just feels better. Granted, the shoulder supporting design of the polymer x bolt mag would be next to impossible to achieve with a metal mag, and I think that is a great idea for a mag, especially for heavy kickers. And, no short barrelled offerings! That’s a personal preference and fairly irrelevant for your cartridge of consideration.

Other than that I love mine, will likely get more x bolts moving foreword, especially if they offer an 18” barrelled version with iron sights, chambered in standard short action cartridges (6.5cm, 7-08, 308, maybe even 338 federal).

You asked, I delivered. Hopefully others will jump in.
 
No problem, I might be one of the biggest x bolt pushers out there. Rest assured though, I’m not on anyone’s payroll, haha. My love for them is also largely based on the safety location, why wouldn’t every maker put the safety on the tang?? Right where the thumb sits, perfect. I don’t like having to alter my grip of the rifle in any way to manipulate the safety, tang safety is perfect. The fact that the bolt is locked when the safety is engaged is another plus for me, I hunt in tanged jungle mess, haha. I also like the 60 degree bolt lift, and both of mine are super smooth.

One other thing about most brownings is there isn’t a lot of aftermarket parts for them. Which really seems to bother the Remington fans that brag about how awesome their 700 is, after they threw away and replaced everything but the receiver.... I’m fine with my brownings that I buy and shoot mostly the way they are (trigger spring being the exception).

Check out Brandon and Stacy Hunt on YouTube, he and she do some very nice shooting with x bolts, most (if not all) of his are McMillan’s if I recall correctly. He has / has had them chambered in 6.5cm and 6.5prc.
 
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My son has a 6.5-300 Weatherby,(Mark V Deluxe) similar to the 26 Nosler. It's extremely fast and accurate, however not a very efficient cartridge. The best powder we experienced for reloading is Hodgdon US869, however, 92.25 grains is "A LOT" of powder to push a 130 gr. accubond bullet..........not very efficient. Furthermore, five shots was enough for me, recoil was to much for this 63 year old. I've been reloading since 1982 and find this cartridge unessential. Probably the most efficient 6.5 is the 6.5 Remington Magnum, IMO.
 
Good thing I have on my fire retardant coveralls. I personally think the 26 Nosler and the 6.5 300 are inherently in accurate generally. I would advise you to talk to reputable gunsmiths that have experience with said Calibers . If you have one that shoots acceptable groups for you that’s great. I’m not into arguing with anyone that’s just my personal opinion.
 
I've done some reloading for a 26 Nosler (Fierce Edge). 3300 fps with 140gr Accubonds over 80grs RL33 is the load we settled on. Expect short barrel life, but plenty of life on a hunting rifle. Very flat shooting, recoil is on par with a 7mm Rem Mag or 300 WSM. There is a short list of suitable powders for this very overbore cartridge, you'll want to stick to RL33, RL50, Retumbo, IMR 8133, Hodgdon US869, Viht N570, Ramshot LHT . Go with a stoutly constructed bullet if you expect shots to come inside 500 yards. A 142gr Nosler ABLR @ 3300 fps hit a mule deer buck quartering away at 80y and the bullet was recovered in the brisket after it blew up the heart. Maybe 10" of penetration and no heavy bone was hit. Bullet retained only about 30% of its weight

Xbolts can shoot really well, I had a 28 Nosler Xbolt Hell's Canyon Long Range that shot some 0.3moa groups at 300 yards with handloads. Timney makes a trigger which would improve on the factory "Feather" trigger
 
I can only comment on the Xbolt, I love the overall handling and fit and finish. Most Brownings seem to fit me well and the Xbolt is no exception, and the triggers are plenty fine for hunting work. Even at 3 pounds on the low end, they are very nice (most of my hunting triggers are at or over 3 pounds anyways).
 
I can only speak on the Xbolt as well. I have a hunter in .280 Remington. I've only fired 6 rounds out of it but so far I love it. First few shots were nearly touching, and that was just 140gr Federal fusion's. Really looking forward to working some hand loads up for it. Love the rifle, the 60° bolt lift is sweet, nice stock, not too heavy. I lightened the trigger as much as I could and don't mind it. Sure it could be a little lighter but this is a hunting rifle, so I don't mind it not being a hair trigger.

Eventually I'd like to get a Hells Canyon speed in 28 Nosler.
 
I have an xbolt western hunter in 26 Nosler. Absolutely love the rifle and caliber. With factory nosler ammo in 129g ABLR it shoots 1/4moa. With my handloads I run a 130g Berger VLD hunting at 3496fps with a .2moa group.. Its extremely fast and flat shooting. Ive got about 400-450 rounds out of it with zero loss in accuracy or groups opening up. With the factory muzzle break on mine the recoil is about 243ish. The biggest down fall I've had to deal with is availability of brass. When you do find brass or factory ammunition its expensive. I have a 28 Nosler in a Hell's Canyon speed that I absolutely love also.
 
The 28 or 30N are better all around choices, the 26N is a bit too much of a good thing. That said a 127LRX at 3500fps is pretty effective. Cup and core bullets didnt shoot as good as the copper mono’s in mine, the 140 hunting vld had one not get to the target every once in a while.
 
I have an xbolt western hunter in 26 Nosler. Absolutely love the rifle and caliber. With factory nosler ammo in 129g ABLR it shoots 1/4moa. With my handloads I run a 130g Berger VLD hunting at 3496fps with a .2moa group.. Its extremely fast and flat shooting. Ive got about 400-450 rounds out of it with zero loss in accuracy or groups opening up. With the factory muzzle break on mine the recoil is about 243ish. The biggest down fall I've had to deal with is availability of brass. When you do find brass or factory ammunition its expensive. I have a 28 Nosler in a Hell's Canyon speed that I absolutely love also.

C'mon, man. Why write such things if you don't post pics to back it up? I'm sorry. I don't usually say things like that but get real. .2moa
 
Browning was chrome lining some of their barrels for the 26 nosler for a while, it looks like newer production doesn't have it listed as such but the comment about accuracy being good as per above might be the reason.

Just about everything i've heard from people that actually own their hells canyon model has been very positive in terms of accuracy.
 
The 28 or 30N are better all around choices, the 26N is a bit too much of a good thing. That said a 127LRX at 3500fps is pretty effective. Cup and core bullets didnt shoot as good as the copper mono’s in mine, the 140 hunting vld had one not get to the target every once in a while.

The good old 270 Win will push the 110 TTSX to 3400 - 3500 with the right powders. I'm not seeing the need here... yes, a slight gain of bullet weight (pretty much insignificant for a monometal) and an slightly better ballistic coefficient... what am I missing here?
 
The good old 270 Win will push the 110 TTSX to 3400 - 3500 with the right powders. I'm not seeing the need here... yes, a slight gain of bullet weight (pretty much insignificant for a monometal) and an slightly better ballistic coefficient... what am I missing here?

Yeah but, the 270 win is just so YAWN, boring and it comes with a 10 twist again, boring! And cou: I've already got 2 of them.
 
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