What are these?

LordEvilPepper said:
cool and all... but whats the point of a silent blank... the whole point of a blank is so the other guy knowns your shooting your "bang bang" at him
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Indoor training. Means you can use any seminar room instead of a shooting range.

Still, someone somewhere WILL end up with a live round and bolt in a rifle at the same time, and that'll be all she wrote for the overhead projector. And a trip to laundry room...
 
Windknot said:
Indoor training. Means you can use any seminar room instead of a shooting range.

Still, someone somewhere WILL end up with a live round and bolt in a rifle at the same time, and that'll be all she wrote for the overhead projector. And a trip to laundry room...
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It uses an off set firing pin, but it may still be close enough for the round to go off.
 
The British LAW80 anti-tank system had an integral 9mm sighting rifle, firing tracer rounds. The 9mm rounds used this sort of setup, with (of all things) a .22 Hornet case. The jump-back provides extra recoil, allowing a blow-back system to function with rather low-powered rounds. The floating chamber in the Colt Service Ace system did the same thing.
 
cet said:
Yes Sir.........that is where I found them, range #2.
I would guess there was close to 50-60 on the ground.
I could not see any type of markings on them.

Thanks for your help folks. You guys are like Google/library/encyclopedia all rolled into one.

Happy new year !!!!!!!
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Just ask the RO who rented it that day
 
ATOM said:
The British LAW80 anti-tank system had an integral 9mm sighting rifle, firing tracer rounds. The 9mm rounds used this sort of setup, with (of all things) a .22 Hornet case. The jump-back provides extra recoil, allowing a blow-back system to function with rather low-powered rounds. The floating chamber in the Colt Service Ace system did the same thing.
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Stumbled on this today - I'd forgotten I had it in my trophy drawer.

The plated case is a .308 necked up to 9mm, no headstamp. The .22 Hornet is stamped RG 89, referring to Radway Green, the British arsenal.


 
The simunition will fire from a standard AR with a special bolt. Basically its a lightened bolt and the bolt head is fixed, making your AR blowback operated. Uses the same buffer tube and stuff. Swap the bolt in load the sim into you AR mag and giver. They also made a 9mm upper receiver that used a similar style bolt and special (crappy) plastic mags that held less than 30 rounds. Pretty sure that was the predecessor to the 5.56 version.
The 5.56 sim will NOT chamber with a normal bolt. bolt is no where close to locking into battery.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Wow...since the LEOs are using them in their M4s do you suppose they're just running them a single shot only? Sounds like exactly what the ERT guys would do for scenario based training.
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like i said, it wont work in gas operated firearm.
it wont even work in pistol without changing the springs.
they must change the bolt assembly in all their rifle for it to work direct recoil. they are rimfired too.

do your research.
 
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