What are you paying for a case of 5.56?

Armament said:
5.56 is Nato is milspec and shoots straighter and more accurately. With my mini 14 I can shoot .2moe freehand at 300m with 5.56 as opposed to .5 moe with canadian tire white box stuff.

5.56 helps me keep on top of my game.
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That's more a matter of brand and what your rifle likes then caliber they pretty much shoot the same in my AR15 and Swiss Arms. Except Ruag buts that's Swiss stuff and they make that #### with pixie dust; but then again it's not even 5.56 or .223... :stirthepot2:
 
K, we should all know the difference between 5.56 and .223. Larger, faster, hotter, milsurp... You can shoot the .223 in a 5.56 barrel, but not the reverse, etc.
The thread was about price; so I'm seeing that most of you are looking at around 50 cents a round give or take, can anyone beat that in your area? If so, please post your area, and thanks for the response fella's!
 
Ummmmm.

I'm new to this. But this ignoramus believes that the bullet diameter of both rounds is the same...that milsurp MAY be loaded a bit hotter than civvie .223...and that any self respecting civvie bolt gun should be able to handle milsurp stuff too...

If I am wrong on any of that, please advise...? Preferably the guys that actually know what they are talking about?

I handload my ammo and recommend that everyone else should do the same.
 
From AR15Armory.com:

There always seems to be a lot of confusion over the difference between a .223 and a 5.56 chamber. Is it safe to shoot this? Is it safe to do that? More confusion is added when some manufacturers advertise rifles with .223/5.56 chambers. I found this 'excellent' explaination on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington) and wanted to share it on this forum.

The .223 Remington is a sporting cartridge with the same external dimensions as the 5.56x45mm NATO military cartridge. It is loaded with a .224" diameter, jacketed bullet, with weights ranging from 40 up to 90 grains, though the most common loadings by far are 55 grains.

The primary difference between .223 Remington and 5.56 x 45 mm is that .223 is loaded to lower pressures and velocities compared to 5.56 mm. .223 Remington ammunition can be safely fired in a 5.56 mm chambered gun, but the reverse can be an unsafe combination. The additional pressure created by 5.56 mm ammo will frequently cause over-pressure problems such as difficult extraction, flowing brass, or popped primers, but in extreme cases, could damage or destroy the rifle. Chambers cut to .223 Remington specifications have a shorter leade (throat) area as well as slightly shorter headspace dimensions compared to 5.56 mm "military" chamber specs, which contributes to the pressure issues.

While the 5.56 mm and .223 cartridges are very similar, they are not identical. Military cases are made from thicker brass than commercial cases, which reduces the powder capacity (an important consideration for handloaders), and the NATO specification allows a higher chamber pressure. Test barrels made for 5.56mm NATO measure chamber pressure at the case mouth, as opposed to the SAAMI location. This difference accounts for upwards of 20,000+ psi difference in pressure measurements. That means that advertised pressure of 58,000 psi for 5.56mm NATO, is around 78,000 psi tested in .223 Rem test barrels (SAAMI .223 Rem Proof MAP is 78,500 psi so every 5.56mm round fired is a proof load, very dangerous). The 5.56 mm chambering, known as a NATO or mil-spec chambers, have a longer leade, which is the distance between the mouth of the cartridge and the point at which the rifling engages the bullet. The .223 chambering, known as the "SAAMI chamber", is allowed to have a shorter leade, and is only required to be proof tested to the lower SAAMI chamber pressure. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber[2] or the Armalite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm and .223 equally well.

Using commercial .223 cartridges in a 5.56-chambered rifle should work reliably, but generally will not be as accurate as when fired from a .223-chambered gun due to the excessive leade. [3] Using 5.56 mil-spec cartridges (such as the M855) in a .223-chambered rifle can lead to excessive wear and stress on the rifle and even be unsafe, and the SAAMI recommends against the practice.[4] Some commercial rifles marked as ".223 Remington" are in fact suited for 5.56 mm, such as many commercial AR-15 variants and the Ruger Mini-14, but the manufacturer should always be consulted to verify that this is acceptable before attempting it, and signs of excessive pressure (such as flattening or gas staining of the primers) should be looked for in the initial testing with 5.56 mm ammunition.
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This thread is about the price of ammo.
Why would someone with a .223 barrel pay extra for 5.56?
 
Hey, thanks for the information, now that is what we call clarity.
so does anyone get better than 50 cents per round?
Thank you for all the input brothers!
 
550 for 55 grain /1000
650 for 62 grain /1000
900 for 63 grain /1000 ~ (Swiss RUAG)

Without checking receipts, it's ball park...
 
That 2 dollar a box milsurp was 'rendered useless' because every body has rifles chambered In 223 and nobody wants to be the one to blame in the history books when they create a 'supernova':p
 
Just got the letter in the mail today. Italain Sporting Goods is having a sale on American Eagle 223, $200 for a 500 round box. But it is for Saturady only at there East Vancouver loaction.
P.S. $169 for 5000 rounds of American Eagle 22LR also.
 
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He's not asking for prices of .223 Rem. There's plenty of that to go around. He wants to know where to get some 5.56x45mm. Though I highly doubt I would ever pay the extra for it, I would still like to know where we could get it in Canada. Too bad Industries Valcartier Inc. doesn't sell ammunition to civilian market (as far as I know, you can only get the casings for handloading). Maybe they had at some point and there are some floating around some where out there, who knows. Would take a comprehensive search to find a viable source of 5.56x45mm but in the end would probably not be worth it...

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Demon971 said:
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I would still like to know where we could get it in Canada.

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Board sponsor The Shooting Edge... PMC K100 (M855) 5.56 x 45. It was $599.00 / 1,000, if they still have it. Best in a 1/7, no good in a 1/12. And they're supposed to be getting PMC M193, but that doesn't seem to be happening. So, there you go, a reliable source for 5.56 x 45, but don't shoot it in your .223 chambered rifles or jennis will come and f*#k you up...

Speaking of :nest:...
 
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