what caliber for my new sheep rifle

That is not a lie


However after posting



And there was no " I firmly believe" before those words in your original statement.

You then posted



That was lie #1,the first lie that started the string of lies,the lie that you won't admit posting.Of course you denied that he shot Dalls,you posted so very plainly.

Then you posted



That was lie#2

Then you posted


That was lie #3

Then you posted



That was lie #4



I didn't have to prove that you lied,you so plainly proved it yourself for all to see.



YOU are the only one that has denied that you lied.Not one other person has posted that you didn't lie.Some people have posted support posts,but not one has posted that you did not lie.The forum members are not stupid,some may want to support you,but they aren't willing to openly lie to do so.



True,but if a person openly stated that there was intelligent life on other planets in the universe,then later denied saying it,he would be a liar.Whether there is or is not intelligent life on other planets in the universe would be irrelevant to him being a liar.The fact that he denied making a statement that he actually made,would make him a liar.



Tell me something that I don't know.My picture was from the #4 manual.As I have been maintaining all along,Nosler did use 24" barrels for some of their 280AI testing.Now even you have admitted that,which conclusively proves your statement about Nosler using the same 26" barrel for all of their 280AI testing to be incorrect.You really are confused,since you are now proving yourself wrong.



On the contrary,I posted a link to the Nosler site which proves my point if you choose to believe the Nosler numbers.On the other hand,you have only provided your word,and no actual proof of any kind.No links,no pictures,no data of any kind.



I posted that I used data from the Nosler site which I did.You have yet to prove otherwise.



I am laughing harder than you,since you don't seem to comprehend that denying that you posted a statement that everyone can plainly see that you posted,makes you a liar.That is truly funny.



The difference is,that simply checking the post dates on the AO forums proves me completely innocent of the accusations made by 17 ultra mag.

On the other hand,you yourself posted your lies right here on the forums.You proved yourself a liar for everyone to see.

CAN'T LOOK AWAY FROM TRAIN WRECK! OMG MAKE IT STOP!:runaway:
 
I'm moving into short form now, as it has become apparent that when someone offers a sound retort or explanation, you ignore it and keep playing your broken record.

You have yet to offer any sound explanation to support your claims,you are even proving yourself wrong now.I can just sit back and watch you argue with yourself until you defeat yourself.However going into short form is a good idea,you won't incriminate yourself as quickly.:D

And yes,you are still a liar,regardless of how many excuses you post,that won't change.

Why stop there, or is 5, 6, 7 in the next #### and Jane reader?

I understand that in your confusion,you are having difficulty with numbers,so I will gladly keep track of your lies.:D
 
You have yet to offer any sound explanation to support your claims,you are even proving yourself wrong now.I can just sit back and watch you argue with yourself until you defeat yourself.However going into short form is a good idea,you won't incriminate yourself as quickly.:D

And yes,you are still a liar,regardless of how many excuses you post,that won't change.



I understand that in your confusion,you are having difficulty with numbers,so I will gladly keep track of your lies.:D

Try "I know you are but what am I?" or " I'm rubber your glue, bounce back stick to you" They are a little more your style.

Just for curiosity sake, if you had the number 4 manual why didn't you post the 24" barreled 280AI info that you had on hand for RL22. It happens to be 63 grains for 3190ish? Isn't it 63 grains on the website too? Let's ponder this, do you actually think that over a decade and a bit the velocity just grew 70fps? And why didn't you use any of the .270 data from it? Again skewed. Notice above, again, I am not the only one laughing...........

Oh, oh, look out here comes another witty "your proving yourself wrong" and "lie # 5" post with no solid facts involved.
 
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good one bartell. lol .as for a caliber i would just pick a standard cartridge for sheep .they cant be all that tough to kill .
 
Just for curiosity sake, if you had the number 4 manual why didn't you post the 24" barreled 280AI info that you had on hand for RL22. It happens to be 63 grains for 3190ish?

My Nosler reloading guide number 4 lists a maximum of 60.5gr of R-22 for the 280AI with 140gr bullets,not 63gr of R-22 as you claim.If you dispute this,I can take a picture of the data from the Nosler Reloading Guide Number Four,and post it, so that everyone can see for themselves.
I posted the data from the Nosler site,because it is the most current data that is easily accessible for everyone to see.

Isn't it 63 grains on the website too?

No it isn't?The maximum load for R-22 and 140gr bullets for the 280AI on the Nosler site is 64gr.Why wouldn't you just go to the site and see for yourself,rather than asking here?

From the Nosler site.

Powder: RL-22
Charge Weight (in grains) Muzzle Velocity (fps) Load Density
64.0* 3265 fps 106%
62.0 3153 fps 103%
60.0 3037 fps 100%

Let's ponder this, do you actually think that over a decade and a bit the velocity just grew 70fps?

Would you not expect 64gr of R-22 to produce more velocity than 60.5gr of R-22?
 
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Just like the Energizer Bunny, It keeps going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going............................................
 
Just like the Energizer Bunny, It keeps going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going & going............................................

Stop it your helping:D

As for SJ. That was lame. Done and done.
 
Sorry I quoted the number 5 manual


Even though you posted

Just for curiosity sake, if you had the number 4 manual why didn't you post the 24" barreled 280AI info that you had on hand for RL22. It happens to be 63 grains for 3190ish?

But for the very first time you admitted making a mistake.:)

If you had immediately admitted to posting all of the other wrong information that you posted,this thread could have been many pages shorter.:D
 
Even though you posted



But for the very first time you admitted making a mistake.:)

If you had immediately admitted to posting all of the other wrong information that you posted,this thread could have been many pages shorter.:D

If you would have been realistic, and accepted the fact that the 280AI isn't 150fps faster than the .270 with 10gr heavier projectiles, and that the .270 is the quintessential sheep rifle, this thread wouldn't have embarrassed you so damn bad.:)

All of the mistakes I made had no effect on the out come, and where transparent from the beginning. You can't accept the fact that you're wrong and that is why this thread is so damn long with a two star rating.

I am sure that your run for Gold in this horrible display of Intranet Special Olympics was quite mirth filled for most. If you haven't noticed, I had no problem being your pacer in all of this for the sake of a good laugh, as I don't take myself nearly as seriously as you.

You've been baited, snared and :owned:.

Thanks for the laugh, but the wind will be good tomorrow, and I have an appointment with Mr. 40cal and Mrs. 6.5x47.

I am sure you will have a few "smart" remarks, but a few were let in on the scenario, and obviously we all felt the same about your antics. Ha, ha.:evil:
 
All of the mistakes I made had no effect on the out come,

Actually they proved that you are totally incompetent since you can't even copy data from a manual or web site correctly.:rolleyes:

You can't accept the fact that you're wrong

The fact that you lied and won't admit it,proved a great deal about your character,or lack of charactor in this case.:D

If you would have been realistic, and accepted the fact that the 280AI isn't 150fps faster than the .270 with 10gr heavier projectiles, and that the .270 is the quintessential sheep rifle, this thread wouldn't have embarrassed you so damn bad.

If only you could have read the data on the Nosler manual as it is plainly written,you would have seen for yourself that the data shows the 280AI to be over 150fps faster with 10 gr more bullet.But you have plainly proven that you can't even read the data as written.

I am sure that your run for Gold in this horrible display of Intranet Special Olympics was quite mirth filled for most.

It was quite entertaining watching you post incorrect statements,misread data,prove yourself wrong and then lie rather than admit that you were wrong.

I am sure you will have a few "smart" remarks, but a few were let in on the scenario, and obviously we all felt the same about your antics. Ha, ha.

And not one single person posted to deny that you lied or posted incorrect data.:D
 
Actually they proved that you are totally incompetent since you can't even copy data from a manual or web site correctly.:rolleyes:



The fact that you lied and won't admit it,proved a great deal about your character,or lack of charactor in this case.:D



If only you could have read the data on the Nosler manual as it is plainly written,you would have seen for yourself that the data shows the 280AI to be over 150fps faster with 10 gr more bullet.But you have plainly proven that you can't even read the data as written.



It was quite entertaining watching you post incorrect statements,misread data,prove yourself wrong and then lie rather than admit that you were wrong.



And not one single person posted to deny that you lied or posted incorrect data.:D

And this all proves that you still don't get it.:rolleyes: You have had your self important, argumentative, inconsistent, sorry butt dragged through all of this for sport. Can't you read?:bangHead:
You can't admit it when you've been learned. Wow.:kickInTheNuts:
 
You have had your self important, argumentative, inconsistent, sorry butt dragged through all of this for sport. Can't you read?

Actually,I have found it totally entertaining to watch you repeatedly post incorrect data,make false statements on a regular basis,and even resort to blatant lying,in attempt to prove a point that remains unproven.
Every time you attempted to post data to support your claim,you found a way to bungle it up.:D
 
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