What can hunt you back?
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Ardent
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Make sure you're not killing for the sake of killing. Plan to eat what you hunt, even bear, and make use of the hide. It's not hunting if you're in it for the "thrill of the hunt" alone, it's killing. If you're after a rush, stick to your airsoft and leave the large predators alone. Try hunting game birds first to get a feel for hunting, and processing your game post hunt in a manageable, easy-for-the-beginner way. You don't just jump right into hunting bears and cougars, you start small, like anything.
Gotta agree with ardent - if you're hung up on the 'killing' side of hunting, you're probably not quite ready to go into the field yet.
As to game animals - you'll quickly find out that they have most of the advantages. It's already not 'fair' - the laws are designed to make sure the animals have the best chance out there. Hunters often come home empty handed for a reason.
Why don't you look to go out with people who DO like the meat? There's a lot of folk out there who'd greatly appreciate a bit of extra venison for the freezer, or maybe even some folks who can't get out themselves and would love someone to help out a little.
We used to donate a part of our kill to folks at dad's church who were having a tough time of things and could use the extra meat. A whole moose was more food than we needed in a year.
As far as loving animals go - if you do a little research you'll discover that in a well managed area where the hunters are used as a management tool, the life you take will likely save the lives of a couple of other animals who would have otherwise died of starvation or illness in a fashion far far more cruel than the one you provided. Herd animals MUST be preyed upon or they outgrow their food supply and nature takes care of it the 'other' way.
if there's 100 deer, and food for only 90, its' not like just 10 die. They ALL eat the food available, and at the end you see about 90 percent die because there's not enough food left. So - removing a few deer from that situation can help keep the herd strong and healthy, and prevent a lot of needless death. That's how the 'wild system' was 'designed' to work if you will.
Hunters still love animals. It's not like we hunt because we hate them, any more than people become vegetarians because they really hate vegetables.
As to game animals - you'll quickly find out that they have most of the advantages. It's already not 'fair' - the laws are designed to make sure the animals have the best chance out there. Hunters often come home empty handed for a reason.
Why don't you look to go out with people who DO like the meat? There's a lot of folk out there who'd greatly appreciate a bit of extra venison for the freezer, or maybe even some folks who can't get out themselves and would love someone to help out a little.
We used to donate a part of our kill to folks at dad's church who were having a tough time of things and could use the extra meat. A whole moose was more food than we needed in a year.
As far as loving animals go - if you do a little research you'll discover that in a well managed area where the hunters are used as a management tool, the life you take will likely save the lives of a couple of other animals who would have otherwise died of starvation or illness in a fashion far far more cruel than the one you provided. Herd animals MUST be preyed upon or they outgrow their food supply and nature takes care of it the 'other' way.
if there's 100 deer, and food for only 90, its' not like just 10 die. They ALL eat the food available, and at the end you see about 90 percent die because there's not enough food left. So - removing a few deer from that situation can help keep the herd strong and healthy, and prevent a lot of needless death. That's how the 'wild system' was 'designed' to work if you will.
Hunters still love animals. It's not like we hunt because we hate them, any more than people become vegetarians because they really hate vegetables.
heres what you need; plane ticket to the congo, large caliber handgun, museum permit.
heres what you do; your hunting silver back gorillas. to make it sporting, you have to take a male during a charge, and dont draw until he's within 15 yards.
heres what you do; your hunting silver back gorillas. to make it sporting, you have to take a male during a charge, and dont draw until he's within 15 yards.
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When I was a kid I would get upset at anyone that killed even a mosquito (there is an animal that will hunt you by the way). I started a club that I called the animal care club. I loved animals and still do. I am now a hunter and I think what made me realize that hunting is such a great thing is that I wanted to be so close to nature. I wanted to take part of nature instead of being a guest. I also realized that if I were an animal I would rather be killed by a hunter than die naturally. Hunters are more humane than nature and I have seen many things that have shown how cruel nature is.
Another thing that drew me to hunting was the fact that you get to spend so much time out in nature and see so many things that you wouldn't if you were just out for a hike. I now the sound of a mother bear communicating with her cub and the sound of porcupines mating. I know if there are certain birds nearby, many other things too. Hunters are lucky, we get to spend a lot of time outside and we get to see wildlife that would otherwise run at the sound of us coming.
I agree that you want to be sure first. I actually cried my first time I shot a bear, I was very emotional from the whole thing but I think it is alright that I felt bad for the bear. I made sure every roast and bear dinner had no waste thrown out and I kept the hide. Every bit of that bear was appreciated greatly and it always brought me back to the wonderful times I spent in the woods looking for it.
If you want to try bow hunting that is a way to be sure it is fair. There have been many times I have hunted with my bow and could see an animal I could have had if I had a rifle. Bow hunting is a challenge and you will have to earn your reward.
I do hope you think about this more and don't worry if you feel bad for the animal, you shouldn't hunt if you don't feel for the animal. Make sure you can handle it first, don't force yourself.
Another thing that drew me to hunting was the fact that you get to spend so much time out in nature and see so many things that you wouldn't if you were just out for a hike. I now the sound of a mother bear communicating with her cub and the sound of porcupines mating. I know if there are certain birds nearby, many other things too. Hunters are lucky, we get to spend a lot of time outside and we get to see wildlife that would otherwise run at the sound of us coming.
I agree that you want to be sure first. I actually cried my first time I shot a bear, I was very emotional from the whole thing but I think it is alright that I felt bad for the bear. I made sure every roast and bear dinner had no waste thrown out and I kept the hide. Every bit of that bear was appreciated greatly and it always brought me back to the wonderful times I spent in the woods looking for it.
If you want to try bow hunting that is a way to be sure it is fair. There have been many times I have hunted with my bow and could see an animal I could have had if I had a rifle. Bow hunting is a challenge and you will have to earn your reward.
I do hope you think about this more and don't worry if you feel bad for the animal, you shouldn't hunt if you don't feel for the animal. Make sure you can handle it first, don't force yourself.
treebutcher
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I agree with Gatehouse set up a tree stand and try to get as many pics as close as you can to what ever you want to hunt. Killing is not what hunting is all about, but it is a part of it. Hunting is not fishing there is no catch and release.
I love animals too they go well with gravy (sorry I couldn't help my self)
I love animals too they go well with gravy (sorry I couldn't help my self)
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BrotherRockeye
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you can solve the "fear/defense" for bears by predator calling for them.
They WILL come a huntin you,an since they don't have guns neither should you.
Fair's fair...
Grow yer nails and get ready fer a fight
They WILL come a huntin you,an since they don't have guns neither should you.
Fair's fair...
Grow yer nails and get ready fer a fight
Mike Oxbig
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Good advice. I've done this several times in the off season where i go sit in one of our stands early in morning with a coffee and watch nature unfold for a few hours. It's simply amazing how many game animals gather around you when you don't have a gun.
You don't eat venison or game birds, but that's because you don't eat venison or game birds. If you start eating them, you'll eat them.
If you love animals, decide to eat only the meat of animals you have taken yourself in fair chase. Stop eating domestic meat that is born into captivity and condemned to a life of standing around waiting to be knocked on the head and eaten by the people they have been conditioned to trust.
If you love animals, decide to eat only the meat of animals you have taken yourself in fair chase. Stop eating domestic meat that is born into captivity and condemned to a life of standing around waiting to be knocked on the head and eaten by the people they have been conditioned to trust.
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In my opinion, its not so much what you hunt but how you hunt that determines what you will get from the hunting experience. Some of my most exciting adventures have not resulted in blood (picture being in the middle of a large herd of African buffalo in tall grass so thick that you only occasionally see a small patch of black hide or the sun glint off a horn close enough to touch, you can hear them, smell them and the ground shakes when they run) but occasionally when I've been successful on game, the actual shot has been easy and rather anti-climatic. While I prefer still hunting, it is probably the least productive of any type. Conversely it can be very exciting to watch the game come to bait, if baiting is legal in your area, and baiting may very well prove to be the most productive technique.
If you haven't hunted before, find a mentor who can provide some guidance for you, or simply pay for a guided hunt and learn from the experts. Aimlessly wandering around can produce opportunities, but that is the exception to the rule. In the off season, go into the field and attempt to find and sneak up on a game animal, if only to take it's picture. This is a great learning tool and can be rewarding in it's own way.
To prepare for your hunt, practice shooting from field positions, at a variety of ranges, under difficult conditions of light and wind, in order to understand your limitations under real world conditions. When hunting, if you spot the game at distance, stalk a close as you can before shooting. To me this is the fun part. Shooting game should be an emotional experience, if you don't feel anything, find another past time. When you put your sights on a game animal don't consider a low percentage shot like a head shot. Aim either on or behind the shoulder between a third and halfway up from the line of the chest. Consider the path the bullet will take through the animal to ensure the trajectory of your bullet will result in a lethal blow. If the animal is not directly broadside, you will observe a space between the front legs, aim directly in the center of that space, then bring your sight up into the body and your shot will be lethal, this works from any shot angle. When you shoot, work the action as quickly as you possibly can without taking the rifle from your shoulder and be prepared for a follow up shot. Mark the spot you shot from before you move, and don't take your eyes off the spot you last saw the game. You might find the game where you last saw it, but probably it will have moved some distance away. Even if your shot was true, the game may require tracking, as a lethal blow does not always result in an instant kill, due to the time it takes for the brain to run out of oxygen and die.
If you haven't hunted before, find a mentor who can provide some guidance for you, or simply pay for a guided hunt and learn from the experts. Aimlessly wandering around can produce opportunities, but that is the exception to the rule. In the off season, go into the field and attempt to find and sneak up on a game animal, if only to take it's picture. This is a great learning tool and can be rewarding in it's own way.
To prepare for your hunt, practice shooting from field positions, at a variety of ranges, under difficult conditions of light and wind, in order to understand your limitations under real world conditions. When hunting, if you spot the game at distance, stalk a close as you can before shooting. To me this is the fun part. Shooting game should be an emotional experience, if you don't feel anything, find another past time. When you put your sights on a game animal don't consider a low percentage shot like a head shot. Aim either on or behind the shoulder between a third and halfway up from the line of the chest. Consider the path the bullet will take through the animal to ensure the trajectory of your bullet will result in a lethal blow. If the animal is not directly broadside, you will observe a space between the front legs, aim directly in the center of that space, then bring your sight up into the body and your shot will be lethal, this works from any shot angle. When you shoot, work the action as quickly as you possibly can without taking the rifle from your shoulder and be prepared for a follow up shot. Mark the spot you shot from before you move, and don't take your eyes off the spot you last saw the game. You might find the game where you last saw it, but probably it will have moved some distance away. Even if your shot was true, the game may require tracking, as a lethal blow does not always result in an instant kill, due to the time it takes for the brain to run out of oxygen and die.
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