Cause it’s basically the same thing.
What can your 6.5 creedmore do that my .260 can't?
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Cause it’s basically the same thing.
Just for the fun of it, I did three searches on Gunbroker, filtering for rifles only, one for "6.5 Creedmoor", one for ".260" and one for "6.5X55."
6.5X55 = 300 hits
.260 = 700 hits
6.5 Creedmoor = 3700 hits
The CM had more than three times the number of listings as the other two combined. That is a small sample of what represents to me as a pretty massive "buy-in" by both, manufacturers and consumers... the WSM's never saw anything like that, and certainly not the WSSM's... I think it is fairly safe to say that the Creedmoor's are here for the long haul.
6.5X55 = 300 hits
.260 = 700 hits
6.5 Creedmoor = 3700 hits
The CM had more than three times the number of listings as the other two combined. That is a small sample of what represents to me as a pretty massive "buy-in" by both, manufacturers and consumers... the WSM's never saw anything like that, and certainly not the WSSM's... I think it is fairly safe to say that the Creedmoor's are here for the long haul.
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Decide on a cartridge you like.
Make up a dummy cartridge with the bullet you prefer, seated so as not to intrude upon the powder capacity of the cartridge.
Send dummy to gunsmith, with instructions to throat the chamber to match dimensions of the dummy, in a barrel of your choosing, to spin onto an action you like.
Wait 6 months or 6 years.
Send vast quantities of cash.
Wait a few more months.
Receive rifle when you can no longer remember why you wanted it . . . but the relationship of cartridge, to bullet, to lead will be correct.
Make up a dummy cartridge with the bullet you prefer, seated so as not to intrude upon the powder capacity of the cartridge.
Send dummy to gunsmith, with instructions to throat the chamber to match dimensions of the dummy, in a barrel of your choosing, to spin onto an action you like.
Wait 6 months or 6 years.
Send vast quantities of cash.
Wait a few more months.
Receive rifle when you can no longer remember why you wanted it . . . but the relationship of cartridge, to bullet, to lead will be correct.
The Creedmoor gained popularity for a few reasons and IMO a better choice in a short action I have a 260 for hunting and like it but the Creedmoor has a few advantages over the 260.
Balisticaly there isn't enough difference to say one is better than the other but where the Creedmoor shines is you get less case growth than the 260 when sizing because of the 30 degree shoulder and the shorter case allows longer bullets to fit in the mags which is very important in some cases specially in the P mags .
The Creedmoor is probably the most popular chambering on the market today for these reasons and I'm on my third chamber reamer because of it, I make more 6.5 Creedmoor barrels than any others it used to be 308 but not now.
Balisticaly there isn't enough difference to say one is better than the other but where the Creedmoor shines is you get less case growth than the 260 when sizing because of the 30 degree shoulder and the shorter case allows longer bullets to fit in the mags which is very important in some cases specially in the P mags .
The Creedmoor is probably the most popular chambering on the market today for these reasons and I'm on my third chamber reamer because of it, I make more 6.5 Creedmoor barrels than any others it used to be 308 but not now.
And three people here think they are all stupid.
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Reading through this gave me a few good laughs! To date, I have taken my 260 out to 1,000 yards a few times. I did manage to hit the target as well (it's a 36" ar-500 plate) but that was just so I could have fun with the boys at the range. More realistically I have practiced often out to 500 yards with my 260 and my coyote rifles and know I could make an ethical shot out to that distance. Yet in all the years I've been hunting, the furthest big game animal I've ever taken was at 218 yards and if you had to average it, the distance would normally be about 80 yards that I shoot at. So it's ok if his 6.5 can "knock em' down at 1000" I just become a better hunter so I don't need to shoot that far!
The 30 degree shoulder/trimming thing is of limited advantage in a hunting rifle. I would prefer to trim every so often and have a sloped case that feeds better. Especially in a short action. Ive owned enough RSAUM's, WSM's, AI's to get this.
I was commenting on "everything new is better", I wasn't trying to say the CM is suffering the same fate as the wssms...
It's clearly a popular cartridge, and it clearly not going anywhere fast. It will be interesting to look back at this in like 10 years though, I wonder if the CM will still be so popular or if someone will release something that kicks it to the curb...
That will be a tall order
Yupp. However, people are always working on new cartridges. The 6.5 PRS is a perfect example of something that has potential to unseat the 6.5CM. Not saying it will (more than likely wont) but the possibility is there... Besides, people might abandon the 6.5cal in favor of the 6mms. Thats already happening in the PRS circuit to a point, isn't it?
The .260 was the answer to the 6.5X55, just as the Creedmoor is the answer to the .260... it is likely that some new development will occur, but it isn't as simple as "build it and they will come." There are already better cartridges but the stars have to align just right to get everyone (Rifle and Ammunition manufacturers, outdoors and precision writers and magazines and shooters from multiple pursuits) to jump at the same time.... when they do, you end up with the .223 Rem, .308 Win... and maybe the Creedmoor??? Only time will tell.
I dunno. The 223 and 308 likely have the military to thank for their popularity. If the US military never switched from 3006, or went with the 7mm cartridge the garand was originally designed for its entirely possible the 308 wouldn't be nearly as popular. Same could be said if they adopted a 6mm or 7mm intermediate cartridge instead of the 223.
Although I guess the military was looking at adopting the 6.5CM for sniping duty, no? So then it'll get that same popularity boost (as if it needs it)
Understand the the CM and PRC are exclusive of each other. Velocity is argued, generally on ignorance. That’s all people know. But some appreciate less powder, which equals less recoil, and better barrel life.
They have adopted it. It will replace the 308 for many applications.
US doesn't like anything Euro, 300 Norma is the first Euro cartridge I think they ever adopted for anything military in the last 100 years outside of the Bofors.
6.5x47Lapua is already a better cartridge design then the 6.5CM...but it's Euro, so won't be pushed in the US.
The PRC is a great cartridge but @ 2.95" OAL it won't work in as many rifle platforms as the Creedmoor, and that will alone will never let it surpass the Creed in popularity
