What choke is normally used in 5-stand?
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beretta boy
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Pretty much depends on target distance.
For most layouts, Imp. Cyl works pretty well out to about 25 yards or so with 8's ... if there are many longer targets, try Light Mod or even Modified with 7-1/2's.
For most layouts, Imp. Cyl works pretty well out to about 25 yards or so with 8's ... if there are many longer targets, try Light Mod or even Modified with 7-1/2's.
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As stated all depends on targets and style of shooting. I shoot with a guy often who breaks 50+ yard targets with IC so some would say that's all you need. I shoot with mod/mod for the most time it gives you a longer shot string and since I swing through my target rather then a maintained lead (for the most part again depends on target) the longer string helps a lot... A lot of English guys shoot IM/IM or even IM/F in rare cases because they blow through there targets... Just a little background on choke selection and some people would disagree but thats my take! If your just starting in clays IC would be a good call to start!
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I too had a buddy who persisted in shooting nothing but Cylinder on Sporting Clays with 7-1/2's ... and he could hit his share of 50 yard targets ... just not consistently, and I don't think I ever saw him "run them". None the less, his scores were respectable... but rarely in the top 5 or 10 percentile.
Burrard, Brister, Roster & many others have done a lot of work on chokes, patterns, shot string length, etc. It is generally held that the shorter the shot string, the better the chance you have hitting a target, provided you have the correct lead and adequate pattern density. A longer shot sting may be of some benefit at say Skeet or similar distance crossing targets, but becomes less so at distance. The so-called "straightaway" Trap target is a case in point. The length of the shot pattern will matter little, while the density of the pattern on the target is what matters. Pattern density is what will break the target consistently ... and at longer range, that usually means more choke and quality, high antimony, hard shot. Of course, you need to get the pattern "on the target" no matter what style of acquiring forward allowance is required.
Meanwhile at the Olympic double trap, they use lower antimony Italian 9s and 8s as the pellets retain more energy as they are heavier than NA 9% premium stuff. The Italian premium lead has at the most 7% antimony but it is tempered which increase hardness. There are la few less pellets due to the heavier weight of the tempered pellets but they hit much better than the light stuff.
Meanwhile, it is not necessary the arrow that does the job but who aims the arrow.
Henry
Meanwhile, it is not necessary the arrow that does the job but who aims the arrow.
Henry
beretta boy
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Not surprising ... Olympic Doubles Trap is hardly a game of distance. Think they use the same "soft shot" ammo at singles targets ???
Which NA manufacturer is producing 9% antimony ??? Roster acknowledges Remington's STS as one of the hardest he's tested at 6% .
No question ... it's the shooter, not the shell ... but you still have to put enough shot on the target to break it. If you keep relying on
that "one golden pellet" to chip your birds, you'll wind up with a goose eggs instead of x's. At distance, hard shot outperforms soft.
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I agree But if you tend to swing through the bird the a$$ head dead concept, with a longer shot string it will be spread over a longer distance (like a long crosser) so you have less a chance of over leading, but still can shoot behind lol!! For 97% of the time pattern is everything!
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I have never heard that??? Always read and been told that the tighter the choke the tighter your pattern and longer your shot string?!
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I understand the theory you are saying but I couldn't see that helping that much... The reason I was always told it is longer with a tighter choke is picture some play dough in I cylinder shape (like a wad) now constrict it with your fist the tighter it you squeeze the longer it gets. Same thing with the shot (the 3 year old in me thought of that explanation)... If your theory was true then .410 would have a extremely short shot string but it has a longer shot strong then 12ga with similar pattern density read an article from federal about it a while back I know not one of the greatly know guys on the subject but found it pretty informative. I could be wrong just curious!?
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beretta boy
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Google "shot string length" and read some of the articles therein. ... particularly "Measuring a Shot String With High Speed Video".
