What do you guys think happened here? (30-06 reload)

Lucky he was shooting a rifle with a strong action or he might not be around to wonder what happened.
Let's be honest - some people shouldn't reload.
 
Hitzy said:
Was it a decent electronic scale or a cheap one? Did he zero it with the powder pan on it or was he doing math with his charges?
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It looked like a cheaper one. He would've zeroed it with the pan on it, but who can say for sure eh? May have slipped up.
 
Even my cheap eBay jeweller scale that was like 10 bucks is easily accurate to 1 grain. Reloader slipped up big time, no MAYBE about that.

So did reloader bridge powders mixing Tightgroup into H4895?

One advantage of 308 smaller capacity.
 
tavares86 said:
It looked like a cheaper one. He would've zeroed it with the pan on it, but who can say for sure eh? May have slipped up.
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Cheapo electronic scale might be all it was too...like another fellow mentioned in this thread, his can be low by 12% until it warms up. Take the 45gr of powder plus the pan (45grs?) and now you could be out by 10-11gr right there.
 
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burnaby said:
Was that first shot also the first round that was loaded after changing over from reloading Titegroup. Perhaps the hopper tube had say 20gn of Titegroup, add 25gn of H4895 and voila, mega pressure. If this is the case the rest of the reload will be H4895.

It is amazing how much powder can sit on the bottom of the hopper/tube.

18.5gn of Titegroup makes a huge fireball in my S&W 500. Expect 45gn TG in 30-06 would blow up.
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That is exactly what I was thinking
 
bigedp51 said:
You can check lug setback with a NO-GO or a Field gauge and not have to pull the barrel.

On a .303 British Enfield rifle two oiled proof testing rounds were fired, if the headspace increased over .003 the rifle failed proofing due to lug setback.[/QUOTE
Problem with using the guages is that the bolt will still not be able to close on a no go but because of the way the lugs might have set back the rifle could still be out of tolerance. The lugs on the Winchester are qiite small in relation to the surface area of the front off the receiver. Did still pull the barrel to check.
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The more I think about this, I believe he probably loaded them all with the fast powder.

To set up a powder thrower (Assuming that's what he was using) you throw one, weigh it, adjust the setting, throw another one, weigh it, re-adjust etc until the powder throw is throwing close to what you want. So even if he had left some of the fast stuff in the thrower, and added the correct stuff to it, he would have seen it, or tossed it back in on top as he adjusted the thrower.

As previously mentioned, he should pull them all and have a look to see what's in there for both powder and weight.
 
I don't think the OP's story would be quite the same if it was 45 grains of Titegroup in a 30-06 cartridge case....she'd a come undone. I'm in agreement with it being the first powder load dropped, and having a mix of Titegroup and the other powder. But on the other hand, what are the chances that this first cartridge loaded, was also the first one fired?

I'm also hedging my bet on two powders being mixed together in the original h-4895 jug.
 
saskgunowner101 said:
I don't think the OP's story would be quite the same if it was 45 grains of Titegroup in a 30-06 cartridge case....she'd a come undone. I'm in agreement with it being the first powder load dropped, and having a mix of Titegroup and the other powder. But on the other hand, what are the chances that this first cartridge loaded, was also the first one fired?

I'm also hedging my bet on two powders being mixed together in the original h-4895 jug.
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The first case charged with powder and the first one with a bullet seated? Maybe put into an ammo box in the order the rounds were reloaded?
Wouldn't be the first time a reloader was methodical to the point of OCD....

Glad there were no bodily injuries - just pride and maybe confidence a bit shaken. Those can be re-grown.
 
Am I seeing a case head separation there?
Way too much pressure, 45g of H4895 would only fill the case about 3/4ish? Did the powder measure hang up on the stick powder?
Always do your visual before seating bullets.
 
My money is on wrong powder, don't think it was Titegroup though its flake 4895 is stick nobody could make that mistake besides 45 grs of Titegroup would have been a pipe bomb I only use 5 grs in 45 ACP and 44-40

Please let us know the outcome! reading through 8 pages is like reading a novel with no last page
 
Ganderite said:
Please report what you find. We can all learn from this.
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Yes. Another good reminder to maintain careful loading practices.

One can ONLY on the bench.
Drain your hopper every time, and cycle it 10 times or so to be sure it is empty, at the end of a loading job.
Look at your powder...flake or extruded etc.
Zero your scale every time.
No interruptions

Glad this worked out with no first aid required.
 
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