What do you precision shooters hunt with?

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I have been reading and enjoying the posts in this forum for several months now, and have learned a lot.
I would imagine that you guys are no less picky about your equipment when it comes to your hunting rifles.
How have you been able to balance long range accuracy with light carrying weight for traipsing up and down mountains all day. Is it better to build a rifle or buy one of the semi-custom rifles such as a HS Precision, Cooper, Nosler etc?
I am looking to get an accurate, light( 6 1/2 lbs or less) mountain rifle for mule deer and caribou sized game, possibly elk.
I do not currently reload but realize that this will likely become necessary.
As I like walnut stocks rather than synthetic, I have been looking at the new Cooper 54M being released this year, in 7mm-08 although would consider the .260 Rem or .308Win. My goal is to eventually be able to take this kind of game out to 500 yds. Am I off base or is this a reasonable goal?( I have hunted in eastern Canada for many, many years-this involving <200yd shooting)
 
my precision rifle *is* my hunting rifle - Remington 5R in .308. I don't find the weight to be an issue, but then again I'm still on the happy side of 40 :)

I can't really comment on taking caribou at 500yds with a .308.
 
Tikka T3 Varminter in .300 WSM. Shoots like a lazer, hits like a hammer and is smooth as silk when cycling the action

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My 700P in .308 goes from punching targets at 1000yards in fclass, to rapid fire precision matches to moose hunting.

I know it's not a hunting gun persay, but the moose has never been around long enough to notice.
 
20 inch ltr-type rifle for both. It is not ideal for either task, but better then required for both.

In followup to Boomer's post below, trigger is set to as crisp of 4.5 lbs as I could get, scope is a leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x40, though I have used everything from aimpoints to NF compacts, and tacticals. Bullet is a 180gr soft point that I know holds ~1MOA (10 shot) out to 400m, and works on Deer-Moose. Rifle weight is ~10lbs.

When I hike it, I'd prefer it to be ~3lb lighter. When I shoot it in F-class type matches, I'd prefer it be ~7 lb heavier. Pretty good balance though IMO.

Great post BTW Boomer.
 
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I pack my Remington Sendaro (semi customized) in 7mm rem mag all day. I bought it as a long range hunting rifle. Shot one doe this year in the neck at 425m. Hope to get drawn for Mule deer next yr. Shots could be up to 500 in the right conditions.
 
I built a .260AI off of a Rem 700LTR. Very precise for long range work and not overly heavy. However still above your goal weight.
 
My go-to hunting rifle

Stainless Synthetic Tikka T3 Lite
.30-06 springfield
57.5 H4350
180gr Accubonds
WW case
WLR

Leupold VX-3 3.5-10x40mm
Duplex reticle

Burris Signature Zee rings w/inserts



Boring, but it works!
 
My 700P in .308 goes from punching targets at 1000yards in fclass, to rapid fire precision matches to moose hunting.

I know it's not a hunting gun persay, but the moose has never been around long enough to notice.

So far I have used Rem 700 30-06, but from now on I will be using the 700P .308.

I have just purchased on of these, what kind of mods do you have on yours so far?
 
Rem 700 sps buckmasters edition, 300 win mag - camo-synthetic stock, no worries about scratches from brush, non-glare finish on all surfaces, being inconspicuous is important in my view. This gun will shoot at least 1 MOA, which is plenty accurate for game, and any ethical hunter (- shooting at paper 500 yards is easy, but at an animal you want a kill shot the first time -).
Handloading the 300 WM can be 150 gr for deer or up to 220 gr for moose or bear, energy enough to drop a moose out to 500 yds plus.
I suggest optics 3.5 - 10x 50mm, as high quality as you can afford, and at least good enough for magnum recoil. Leupold VX3 or Vortex Viper top my list. (Vortex is new on the scene, I challenge anyone to tell the difference - for the money, they are worth checking out!)
One gun for all game, nice and light, all done. :)
 
7WSM on a trued 700 action
22" Hart barrel
McMillan HTG stock with AI mag system
NF 2.5-10x24mm on Talley rings

Shoots 140gr TTSX like lasers and have taken moose, mule deer, and black bear with ease.
 
Accumark

Weatherby accumark .257 Weath Mag, with a Zeiss Conquest 3.5x10x50 mounted on it , shooting handloads with Barnes 115 gr tsx, it works like thors hammer on moose and elk
 
Few hunters can shoot up to their rifles on demand, under field conditions. Most big game presents a large target at close range, so there is no advantage to the big game rifle that shoots quarter minute groups under normal big game hunting conditions. If you are tempted to take a target rifle into the field, consider some of the disadvantages. A target rifle might not be any more accurate, or even as accurate as a good hunting rifle when both a loaded with bullets suitable for killing big game.

Consider the situation where the rifleman has ordered a custom barrel with a rate of twist optimized for 155 gr bullets, then loads up a 200 gr bullet to hunt moose or big bears with. Chances are that rifle will no longer produce the quarter minute accuracy he is so proud of, it may in fact not even properly stabilize a long 200 gr bullet. The first shot is the important shot. It must go exactly where you want it to go from a cold barrel, in other words the rifle must be sighted in for the cold bore shot. There are no alibi shots or sighting shots in the field under normal big game hunting conditions. If the follow up shot impacts 4" away from the first shot, it doesn't make any difference because by that time the animal could be in flight and shooting tighter than 4" would be a fluke under those circumstances. If your ammo is loaded to produce the ultimate in accuracy and you seat your bullets hard into the rifling with fairly light neck tension, unloading the round could result in the bullet being left in the throat of the chamber. Bullets seated long enough to contact the rifling results in ammo that is often too long to feed from the magazine, and single loading a bolt gun in the field should be considered a disadvantage.

Then there is the weight of the rifle, which in the case of my target rifle is 20 pounds and I have no interest in packing around a 20 pound rifle for 10 hours, but that depends on your hunting style. If you have a wide open vista to watch from a static position, the heavy target rifle would be of little inconvenience, but that is a different game.

The high powered scopes suitable for use on the range are a poor choice for normal big game hunting, due to their delicate mounting, large physical size, and tight field of view.

Many target rifles have very light triggers, and carrying a heavy loaded rifle that requires less than a pound of trigger weight to fire leaves something to be desired.

In recent years, we have seen an increase in the popularity of short, heavy barreled factory .308s like the T-3 Tactical, the M-700 Police, and short barreled versions of Accuracy International's AE and the Styer SSG. These rifles are more portable than their long barreled cousins, and if you want a high quality do it all rifle that sees more use on the range than in the field, they are more practical for normal big game hunting than a full blown target rifle. Still, I would be inclined to use a true big game scope on the day you go into the thick stuff after a moose or whitetail, as even a 4-12X40 has a pretty tight field of view. The hunter who hunts from a snowmobile or quad is not bothered by a little extra weight in his rifle, provided the length is not cumbersome.

The long range big game hunter is the exception to the rule. He must use a very accurate system, and be able to work out his firing solution beginning with a very precise calculation of range. He has mastered the difficulties associated with shooting in wind and mirage at extended ranges. If he is familiar with the area, he may very well have prearranged those places where he is most likely to spot game. His rifle is probably a target rifle/hunting rifle hybrid chambered for a powerful cartridge that has enough residual velocity and bullet mass at a half mile or more to ensure a humane kill on a big game animal. Such a hunter has little in common with the typical big game hunter who almost always shoots within 300 yards, and most often shoots within half or even a quarter of that range.
 
Thank you all for your responses. It sounds like most of you carry heavier rifles than I want, as you combine range and hunting tasks in the same weapon.

Does anyone have experience with the Cooper rifles at longish hunting ranges, say up to 500 yds?
 
Tikka T3 lite (SS, Synth) in 338 Federal, totally stock and unmodified. Busnell Elite 3200 3-9X

Wichester brass, 210M, 47 of Varget and 185 triple shocks.

Hunting rifles are meant to rattle around in the cab of the truck, hit minute of heart at 200M and not weigh a ton. They are tools, not furnitutre. I used a garden hose with warm water to hose moose guts and blood off it.
 
Slice....for the weights you are talking about and the ranges, 500yds and closer you need a rifle of adequate calibre that you can reload for to gain optimum accuracy. Regardless if you get a high end rifle or not if you limit it to shooting factory hunting ammo it will be more difficult to get it to shoot accurately. Most modern hunting rifles can be tuned to shoot accurately enough to hunt out to 500yds with. I have a plain M70 in 325WSM that will shoot honest MOA or better out to 500yds. It weighs in at 6.5lbs without scope.
 
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Hunting rifles are meant to rattle around in the cab of the truck, hit minute of heart at 200M and not weigh a ton. They are tools, not furnitutre. I used a garden hose with warm water to hose moose guts and blood off it.
Well put Obtunded!

Always shocks me to hear people rave about their hunting/hunting rifles when their kit is all shiney.

That said, a 5R cleans up the same as the rest of them.
 
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