what does a 6.5 creedmore do that a 6.5 x 55 doesn't?

It's a new purchase, not even broken in yet lol.
Opinion so far is it underwhelming, I've been shooting 6.5x55 for 20 years, it's more forgiving in powder selection and velocity, I can get ES down to single digits with 6.5x55, 308, 7mm, 6.5CM I hit pressure quickly developing loads and best ES so far is 35fps. It's much more finicky then I expected.
As for how 6.5 pills perform, they perform well in the 6.5x55. I don't buy into the case design magic bs some of you do...sorry lol.

So I’ve been arguing with you for dozens of posts, and the reality is you have almost no experience with the cartridge we’ve been discussing. A few rounds through a singular rifle. I’m glad you enjoy a classic chambering, I do too. But as far as the comparison is concerned, the market has already spoken and there’s a clear winner. Clearly your observations on it’s inadequacies are completely speculative. A great deal of shooters have single digit ES in the Creedmoor also.
 
So I’ve been arguing with you for dozens of posts, and the reality is you have almost no experience with the cartridge we’ve been discussing. A few rounds through a singular rifle. I’m glad you enjoy a classic chambering, I do too. But as far as the comparison is concerned, the market has already spoken and there’s a clear winner. Clearly your observations on it’s inadequacies are completely speculative. A great deal of shooters have single digit ES in the Creedmoor also.

A 140gr BTHP at 2700fps performs identical whether it's out of a 6.5CM, 260Rem, 6.5x55, 6.5x284 etc.
Or do you disagree with the laws of physics?
 
I'd bet 90% of 6.5CM owners on CGN haven't shot it past 100m anyway, and all the experience they have with it's capabilities are from reading online forums and paid advertising lol.

That could be said about most shooters with most cartridges.
 
I'd bet 90% of 6.5CM owners on CGN haven't shot it past 100m anyway, and all the experience they have with it's capabilities are from reading online forums and paid advertising lol.

put the 6.5 to 800.

Its cool. Only reason I got it was SWO hunting laws. Then I jumped down to the 243 instead... Now im looking for 22-250...

Varmints are mainly what I shoot at other then paper so.

Furthest I shot the 6.5 on a critter was just over 350. Coyote dropped instantly.

Havent pushed the 243 past 250 yard shots.
 
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How can you argue that people can want something that has features they want, if they don't know they even want it (Previously unknown)?

You have a complete failure to understand that marketing is exactly what is used by marketers to make you aware of "previously unknown" products, and then they use it to make you want its "desirable features". If you're completely oblivious to that process, there is no point in continuing the discussion.

Of course marketing is a factor in informing people of products. When did I suggest it wasn't? You are too hung up on the marketing aspect to comprehend the rest of the things I listed in what may be a factor in a successful cartridge introduction, so I would agree continuing the discussion is pointless.

I will end by just saying you are the ideal "consumer" that marketers dream about. You actually believe that you had all these ideas about "previously unknown products with desirable features" all on your own, and then someone conveniently invented just what you didn't know you wanted, with all the features you didn't know you needed. A marketing wet dream.



Hardly a marketers dream. I usually take my time researching things or waiting for the improved generation 2 model while other people are lining up to get the latest.

Maybe one day I'll get a 6.5 CM, but my 260 works for me for now. The fact that I have another 6.5 chambered rifle doesn't make me refuse to acknowledge that the CM has some features that make it a desirable cartridge to many, and should prove to be a long term success. I'm sure 10 years from now there will still be people crying about "marketing hype" Laugh2
 
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I have a Sako 55 and a RPR 6.5 Creed used them once and now when i reach for my performing rifle, i pickup my SSG 3000 308, i am just a better shot with a 308.
 
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Of course marketing is a factor in informing people of products. When did I suggest it wasn't? You are too hung up on the marketing aspect to comprehend the rest of the things I listed in what may be a factor in a successful cartridge introduction, so I would agree continuing the discussion is pointless.





Hardly a marketers dream. I usually take my time researching things or waiting for the improved generation 2 model while other people are lining up to get the latest.

Maybe one day I'll get a 6.5 CM, but my 260 works for me for now. The fact that I have another 6.5 chambered rifle doesn't make me refuse to acknowledge that the CM has some features that make it a desirable cartridge to many, and should prove to be a long term success. I'm sure 10 years from now there will still be people crying about "marketing hype" Laugh2

Wow....from the 375 Ruger beats the 375 h&h prophet.

Just like the 375 bore....the creedmore is pushing into saturated ground. If you own one in the bore your not going to sell it and buy the creedmore.
 
Wow....from the 375 Ruger beats the 375 h&h prophet.

Just like the 375 bore....the creedmore is pushing into saturated ground. If you own one in the bore your not going to sell it and buy the creedmore.

375 Ruger is indeed a better cartridge than the 375 H&H, but this thread isn't about that.

And despite the overwhelming success of the 375 Ruger, there are still the people that cry "hype" Laugh2

Hype only takes you so far.....;)
 
As a big game hunting rifle, the creedmoor is irrelevant.
Maybe as a low recoil target rifle. Or something that can be stuffed into AR platform, it may have some advantage.
 
As a big game hunting rifle, the creedmoor is irrelevant.
Maybe as a low recoil target rifle. Or something that can be stuffed into AR platform, it may have some advantage.

Well no. You just absolutely refuse to see it. As a hunting round it has tremendous relevance. It’s virtues as such have been pointed out several times on this thread.

Here is a made up scenario that might make this painfully clear.

My 12 year old grandson is looking for a hunting rifle. He likes the idea of a 6.5. Should he get a 6.5x55, 260 AI, or says 6.5 CM? What are the advantages of each as a hunting round that might be relevant?
 
375 Ruger is indeed a better cartridge than the 375 H&H, but this thread isn't about that.

And despite the overwhelming success of the 375 Ruger, there are still the people that cry "hype" Laugh2

Hype only takes you so far.....;)

And the 375 Ruger is nowhere near as successful as the CM has been. Not even close.
 
A 12 year old has multiple choices for low recoiling hunting rounds already. Some of which are as or more versatile than a 6.5. Like 7-08 308 etc.
Nope, nothing to see here. Keep dreaming.
 
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