what does a 6.5 creedmore do that a 6.5 x 55 doesn't?

To be fair, flat shooting only matters within like 350m, beyond that you need an accurate range finder and you gotta know your drops, at which point how flat it shoots doesn't really matter.

For sure, how far would you shoot at big game with a 6.5 CM?
Likely the 270 win has similar if not greater effective range on game.(?)
Creedmoor as a hunting round? Nothing to see here imo.
 
For sure, how far would you shoot at big game with a 6.5 CM?
Likely the 270 win has similar if not greater effective range on game.(?)
Creedmoor as a hunting round? Nothing to see here imo.

Can you think of an animal you have shot with a 260 that you couldn’t have with the CM?
 
Why yes I have. And I have no clue. I’ve killed a pile of big game with a pile of cartridges. And I can certainly tell you that stuff dies quite handily without ever reading a headstamp. Now will someone please tell me what is actually wrong with the 6.5 CM so we can resolve the matter. Up to this point, no one has.
 
Why yes I have. And I have no clue. I’ve killed a pile of big game with a pile of cartridges. And I can certainly tell you that stuff dies quite handily without ever reading a headstamp. Now will someone please tell me what is actually wrong with the 6.5 CM so we can resolve the matter. Up to this point, no one has.

Richard...
 
Why yes I have. And I have no clue. I’ve killed a pile of big game with a pile of cartridges. And I can certainly tell you that stuff dies quite handily without ever reading a headstamp. Now will someone please tell me what is actually wrong with the 6.5 CM so we can resolve the matter. Up to this point, no one has.

Nothing is WRONG with it. It's very good at what it does, which is provide good accuracy in a factory rifle with store bought ammo, while being an optimal size for a standard short action.

That said, with enough money and time the 6.5x55 will do everything the CM does other than nicely fit a short action.
 
Q: What does it do that the 6.5 x 55 doesn't do, or what does it do better?

A: (without reading 6 pages of bickering) is the answer fit in a short action?
 
What does the 6.5 cm do that the 6.5x55 won't do. Exactly the same thing that the 7-08 does for a 7x57. Fit in a short action, fire full power factory loads that don't need to be lawyer proof for 100 yr old rifles, and sell rifles that people don't need with the help of marketing campaigns.

There are a lot of standard calibers between say 25 and 30 that could be substituted for one another. All would kill deer, all make little holes in paper. If I have any of them....I don't "need " the others. If I didn't have any of them, the 6.5 cm would do.

Who's kidding who....this is CGN....I have most of them.
 
Q: What will it do that the 6.5x55 won't do?
A: Help the US Military make America great again. :)

So the Creedmoor creates fraudulent universities to scam people, can't sell steaks or gambling to Americans, uses his non profit to bribe new York politicians, charges said non profit to rent his golf courses for charity events, cheats on his wife with a multiple #### stars, and can't get those Mexicans to pay for their wall?....

What does the 6.5 cm do that the 6.5x55 won't do. Exactly the same thing that the 7-08 does for a 7x57. Fit in a short action, fire full power factory loads that don't need to be lawyer proof for 100 yr old rifles, and sell rifles that people don't need with the help of marketing campaigns.

There are a lot of standard calibers between say 25 and 30 that could be substituted for one another. All would kill deer, all make little holes in paper. If I have any of them....I don't "need " the others. If I didn't have any of them, the 6.5 cm would do.

Who's kidding who....this is CGN....I have most of them.

At least the 7mm08 is made from cheap and common 308 brass.... Lol
 
Funny there is talk about how standardized the 6.5CM is, I don't have a single match 140gr I can seat to 2.800 without jamming the lands. Longest I can go with is Hornady at 2.770.
There is some old gunsmith on YouTube spouting about this issue as well, he's extremely boring and drones on and on, I'll see if I can find it.
 
Shot this 45 minutes ago. I sure wish it was a 260. Which I have no problem with by the way.

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Once it breaks in you will see improvement. Typically 100-200 rounds before things settle in.
 
John Barsness, IMO one of the more experienced and objective gun writers, posted this comment on a 6.5CM thread the other day-

Here is a short read on what a plain old fast twist 243 can do. Note that they have a looong steep shoulder, complete opposite of what a "target" cartridge is suppose to look like.
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/243win/
With enough powder capacity to drive the 0.585 BC 115gr DTACs at 3150+ fps, the .243 Win is an outstanding long-range cartridge. George Gardner of GA Precision recently won the long-range Shumway Cup segment of the 2006 Snipers’ Hide Cup shooting a straight .243 Win. In so doing, George bested Terry Cross (.260 Rem) and David Tubb (6XC), so you can see the .243 is a top performer at long distances. In fact, in terms of Wind Drift, a .243 running 115s at 3150 fps beats both the .260 Rem (2850 fps) and the 6.5-284 (2950 fps) running 142 MatchKings.
 
Funny there is talk about how standardized the 6.5CM is, I don't have a single match 140gr I can seat to 2.800 without jamming the lands. Longest I can go with is Hornady at 2.770.
There is some old gunsmith on YouTube spouting about this issue as well, he's extremely boring and drones on and on, I'll see if I can find it.

That’s just a problem with your rifle, not the cartridge. I’ve had 5 Creedmoors now, none of which had that problem. I did however have awful seating depth problems with my only 260. I had to push the the Bullets so far back that it severally limited case capacity.

This problem is much more common in cartridges like 260 and 243 vs. the 6 and 6.5 creemoors

Also, one other thing the Creedmoors can do is fit in a standard AR10 action. Haven’t seen too many semi auto 6.5x55 developed in the last 50 years.
 
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