I have to agree with Jordan. The .22 mag is really explosive, lots of jam to it when she connects. You know when you hit a gopher. My .17 on the other hand, even when using V-max bullets doesnt make them dance near what the .22 does. But the one thing the .17 has got is distance. whether it is 25m shot or a 150m shot, just put the cross hairs on the gopher and he is dead.