What does this mean about my eye?

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About my vision: I'm near-sighted but only slightly (can legally drive without glasses), and it's a very stable prescription (over years and years). I have prescription shooting glasses that I wear during all shooting.

I have two bushnell scopes: an XRS, and the elite tactical G2 FFP, 6-24x50 with 30 mm tube.

On both scopes, when I do the reticle focusing (with eyeglasses on) I find that the best result is with the eyepiece screwed all the way in. But even with that and the parallax adjusted I sometimes still fight to get the reticle and target in focus together. What does this mean about my eye?
 
According to your avatar, if you take those sunglasses off there's probably a little red LED light in there instead of an eyeball and that might have something to do with it.
Seriously, I don't know. Have you tried different brands of scopes and had the same problems?
 
I think the reticle focus is ok, but the parallax is best adjusted with a little up and down movement of the eye. Don't try and adjust the parallax without wiggling your head a bit.
 
I have a Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50, been a long while since I played with the reticle focus but I"ll try playing with it next time I take it out.

Thank you tigrr, I'll try that.
 
How does the reticle look without your glasses?

My suggestion is to adjust the recticle focus with the naked eye... then see if the side focus resolves the issues with the image focus

If this solves your issue, then it is the prescription that is wrong for scope use.

Otherwise, the scope optical system may simply not suit your eyeball. If your NF works fine but your Bushnells don't, problem solved.

Jerry
 
This is an interesting topic so I've done a bit of reading to try and understand what's going on. Here's what I've found:

When your distance vision is good, parallel light, which comes from beyond optical infinity (6 meters or farther away), gets focused into your retina. If you are nearsighted (can't see distance well), your eye has too strong an optical power (aka too high a dioptre, aka too short a focal length) so it focuses the image in front of your retina, which makes the image blurry.

(An aside: As mentioned above, distance vision is for parallel light. Light from closer objects is diverging, so you need even more optical power to focus light from a close object onto your retina. The eye has an ability (accomodation) to increase its optical power and thus focus on close objects. But this ability is lost with age, which necessitates reading glasses, which are a positive dioptre, ie an increase in optical power.)

To correct nearsightedness, you get glasses that have a negative diopter (for example a moderate prescription might be -3 dioptre), which weakens the optical power of your eye+glasses, so that the focus of far-away-object light goes from in front of the retina to on the retina.

Ocular adjustments on scope eyepieces have a range of something like plus/minus 2 or 3 dioptres. When the ocular is backed all the way out it's positive dioptre, aka more optical power, so with respect to the reticle it's like looking through a pair of reading glasses. When the ocular is screwed all the way in it's negative dioptre, so with respect to the reticle it's like looking through a moderate strength prescription for nearsightedness.

My problem is I have the ocular adjustment screwed all the way in and it's still not in focus. The solution is I need more negative dioptre applied to my eye, so that I will get good reticle focus somewhere in the middle of the adjustment range of the scope ocular.

One thing to note is that while my prescription is stable, I need to check if it's 100% stable, because my shooting glasses are over a decade old. First thing to try is using the scope with my latest prescription glasses. Also, perhaps the size of the glasses lens (large for my shooting glasses, small for latest prescription pair), or where the light hits the glasses lens, plays a role in actual dioptre change I experience with the (small) 4 mm wide circle of light coming out of the scope.

One backup option is I could try with some cheap over the counter negative dioptre glasses (the opposite of the usual reading glasses you're thinking of), or single-use contacts, with a dioptre even more negative than my prescription.

Another backup option is to go to the optometrist and explain the problem, see if I'm missing anything, whether I need a special extra negative dioptre prescription for use with riflescopes. Or if I need a different prescription for my left eye (dominant) when the right is screwed shut (because closing one eye changes the shape of the other). Is that why some fancy shooters use blinders on their other eye?
 
According to your avatar, if you take those sunglasses off there's probably a little red LED light in there instead of an eyeball and that might have something to do with it.
Seriously, I don't know. Have you tried different brands of scopes and had the same problems?

Hahahaha.awesome!!!
 
I have Myopia w/astigmatism, now getting close to bi-focal territory (I'm just lucky I guess). When I look into a red dot scope, the dot looks like a star or constellation.

I'm new to long range scopes, but peering into them at the store, I notice my field of vision at higher magnification is very narrow. One of the blessings of having 7x magnification on your glasses plus whatever the optic has. When looking in a scope with a larger objective (42mm vs 40mm), it's a little better for me. I think I'll have to buy a 50mm scope to be usable at a larger magnification.

Wish I had perfect vision but not all of us have been blessed with it.

I don't proclaim to understand the factors in effect here, but compared to someone with perfect vision looking into any optic, I'm at a huge disadvantage.
 
I am also near slighted and wear bifocals. I had a similar situation as you with my sightron bigsky 6-24.I was always getting reticle blur if I focused too long on my target. I tried the front fast focus in all positions and could never get rid of it. For me the Vortex scopes work very well with no reticle blur. I currently have 2 HST 6-24×50's on my target 22lrs and a PST 6-24×50 on my 223.
 
Thank you, all good suggestions.

I have a similar problem and have come to the conclusion that some scopes do not have a wide enough adjustment range to accommodate my failing eyesight.
Some like the Zeiss Conquest that I tried were great other not so much, even within the same brand they differ from model to model,
my Leupold 1.5-5 is great while my 6.5-20 I cannot focus.
Try different models, you might have to make some compromises.
BB
 
I have a similar problem and have come to the conclusion that some scopes do not have a wide enough adjustment range to accommodate my failing eyesight.
Some like the Zeiss Conquest that I tried were great other not so much, even within the same brand they differ from model to model,
my Leupold 1.5-5 is great while my 6.5-20 I cannot focus.
Try different models, you might have to make some compromises.
BB

I take your point about needing to try different scopes; however it's hard enough as it is to find a scope with the quality, price, and features I like, so I'm more inclined to compromise by getting the right glasses to get my eye into the scope's adjustment range!
 
At what distance are you doing these tests/adjustments? At 100 yards? If so, I don't think it's your vision. It's the scope. I had a similar problem with my $3000 scope. No matter what I did I could not remove parallax at 100 yards when the image was the sharpest. I had to nudge the knob a little which made the image slightly less sharp. This was not a problem at longer distances. You should set the diopter in the middle and repeat your test at 300, 600, 1000 yards. If the middle diopter setting does not produce a sharp reticle with your corrected vision then the scope is defective. I was told by a super top secret double probation scope manufacturer employee that sometimes the ocular lenses are not aligned correctly and cause this issue.

Second, check your blood sugar. An imbalance there causes blurry vision.
 
Haha maybe it's unfair of me (to the scope) to not have mentioned this, but it was at 50 yards, at max 24x power. But that bushnell 6-24 has a parallax adjustment down to 25 yards, so I expect it to work at 50 yards.

It could be that the scopes are defective, given that my vision is corrected (with glasses) to the ideal by a professional optometrist. But I'll reserve judgment until I can learn about whether screwing my right eye closed and smooshing my left cheek into a stock has an effect on the focusing power of my left eye. That might be why I'm not falling in the center of the ocular adjustment of the scope.
 
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