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TDC said:
The SL8 is a piece of sh*t that doesn't do anything very well. They're heavy and cumbersome with unthreaded barrels. The triggers are marginal at best and parts are near impossible to get. By the time you're done changing the stock for a G36 type affair you're pushing well over $3000 and you haven't mounted glass. The fixed LOP G36 stock is counter productive, and if you run the G36 style "carry handle" then offset is a major problem with optics. The mag well requires HK mags or you could pay even more money for the AR mag well adaptor.
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Do yo ueven have one? I have one and have owned 2 others - my assessment is very different than yours.

You are basically describing why the SL8 is not a good choice for 3 gun. As a long-range accuracy black rifle from a supported position, it happes to perform very well, thanks very much. The barrel is VERY condusive to precision shooting.
 
I saw a picture of a very impressive American SL rifle today. (SL6?)

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TDC said:
The line is a personal choice. The SL8 is a piece of sh*t that doesn't do anything very well. They're heavy and cumbersome with unthreaded barrels. The triggers are marginal at best and parts are near impossible to get. By the time you're done changing the stock for a G36 type affair you're pushing well over $3000 and you haven't mounted glass. The fixed LOP G36 stock is counter productive, and if you run the G36 style "carry handle" then offset is a major problem with optics. The mag well requires HK mags or you could pay even more money for the AR mag well adaptor.



TDC
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there are aftermarket mags that directly fit the HK magwell 5/30's and they are reasonably priced, The G36 carry hadle has optics built in, with the scope rail ("not carry handle") and good optics it is a MOA or less gun depending on what ammo you use and I don't reload so it can be even better, the only semi I have had with better accuracy with factory ammo is the swiss arms sniper version which is about 4 times the price if you can find one.
 
Looks like a SL8-6, with a boat load of conversions.
Barrel looks like the very rare 16.25" CQB G36 barrel, most likely a cut SL8 barrel.
Stock SL8 handguard
G36e Dual Optic
AR15 Mag conversion
SL8 Thumbhole stock mixed with very old/rare G36k extendable folding stock, mixed with Magpul grip...?

Looks nice
 
Even more reason to want the AR platform to become NR... i could only imagine the economic boom it could provide the country for every kiddy who wants a tacticool gun.

And of course a simple and easy platform to build up to your heart's content :)
 
So according to "some" you NEED a threaded barrel or a gun to be good?

The SL-8 is a VERY accurate gun, see it out shoot many bolt guns... The trigger is fine, learn to shoot stock guns, not only the one that are tuned and modified to make it easier for you. Man this trigger princess ordeal is getting out of hand... Last gun range themed shoot I was at you had to use a stock AR-15 at one stage, irons. 90% of people missed ALL targets...sad. The blame was put onto the gun, not their lack of skills. Funny how that works :p
 
TV-PressPass said:
I saw a picture of a very impressive American SL rifle today. (SL6?)

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That's a SL8 conversion with the newer HK G36 retractable stock;
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Of course the example I gave is folding where the pic of the full rifle is fixed. Forget where I seen the fixed versions.

That build is also using the magwell adapter;
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SL8-G36 handguard with heat shield;
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Single optic with carry handle;
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And what looks to be a HERA lower but I'm likely wrong on that part.

There used to be a time where sourcing the parts for these builds was an artform :p. Glad to see that's changed.
 
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loki_81 said:
That's a SL8 conversion with the newer HK G36 retractable stock;
g36kvstock.jpg


Of course the example I gave is folding where the pic of the full rifle is fixed. Forget where I seen the fixed versions.

That build is also using the magwell adapter;
g36magwelladp.jpg


SL8-G36 handguard with heat shield;
g36ehandguard_2301_detail.jpg


Single optic with carry handle;
g36singleoptic_284_detail.jpg


And what looks to be a HERA lower but I'm likely wrong on that part.

There used to be a time where sourcing the parts for these builds was an artform :p. Glad to see that's changed.
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A lot of people think the SL8 is crappy. Is this true?
 
FireFalcon115 said:
A lot of people think the SL8 is crappy. Is this true?
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A lot of people also think guns are scary and that red cars go faster.

The SL-8 doesn't have some of the features I look for in a rifle, and in its factory configuration its stock certainly isn't ideal for everyone.

But the fact is: H&K keeps making and selling the rifles, so there are people out there who do like them.

If you're interested in one, try to get some hands on time with one first. Preferably at a range. That's going to be the best way to determine if its something you should consider buying.

If someone offered me an SL-8 done up like the one above: I would seriously consider it.
 
TV-PressPass said:
A lot of people also think guns are scary and that red cars go faster.

The SL-8 isn't a Tavor, so it's simply not tactical enough.

But the fact is: H&K keeps making and selling the rifles, so there are people out there who do like them.

If you're interested in one, try to get some hands on time with one first. Preferably at a range. That's going to be the best way to determine if its something you should consider buying.

If someone offered me an SL-8 done up like the one above: I would seriously consider it.
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Well said sir, with just a little ammendment to tell people what you really mean :p.
 
FireFalcon115 said:
A lot of people think the SL8 is crappy. Is this true?
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No, it's not crappy by a long shot--it's well made and reliable, it's just that it doesn't do anything really well. Too heavy to be a good service-style rifle, not accurate enough nor with a good enough trigger to be a good precision rifle. The factory stock is weird, and needs the cheekpieces for proper cheek weld, and many people don't like the thumb hole design. A lack of AR mag compatibility doesn't help. The conversion above looks to address all of those deficiencies ( except the optic, but I'd go with the factory optic just for completeness) especially the overly-long, overly heavy barrel. But the final cost would be a little eye-watering I'd say.
 
There never seems to be a lack of people complaining when a gun does not take AR mags, Is this like a new standard in rifles that every manufacturer should abide by? I actually like the fact that most european manufactured guns still have their own mags.
 
Brian46 said:
There never seems to be a lack of people complaining when a gun does not take AR mags, Is this like a new standard in rifles that every manufacturer should abide by? I actually like the fact that most european manufactured guns still have their own mags.
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The biggest reason for us, of course, is that we can use 10 round AR mags. But for everyone else, of course it's still better to have AR mag compatibility--you can choose for a huge range of products instead being limited to a couple of manufacturers. I can't thing of one reason why I'd want a proprietary magazine design.
 
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