Thanks for the info. He'd probably be hard to convince to carry the gun, all my idea. He'd say it'd prevent him from carrying more baskets of berries out of the bush, and an extra 5-8 lbs over a few miles gets tiring.
What firearm NOT to use on grizzly bears.
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Thanks for the info. He'd probably be hard to convince to carry the gun, all my idea. He'd say it'd prevent him from carrying more baskets of berries out of the bush, and an extra 5-8 lbs over a few miles gets tiring.
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That's exactly what I'd of expected him to say. He's obviously comfortable in the bush, I think he's alright.
This is a very old publication from 1983. Ammo has progressed since then.
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I hadn't noticed Snowy Owl's post till you quoted it. Despite being well intentioned, considering who the OP is, and considering the things he's done in his life, I doubt that the publication noted would be of much benefit to him. Bruce has gone to great lengths to record and protect the local history from his neck of the woods, which otherwise would have been lost. Clearly this is a tale to that end. "The past is another country, they do things differently there." - L.P. Hartley quoted by Jeff Cooper.
Pulled a 22 slug out of a black bear when skinning the other day. It was perfectly behind the shoulder, and just under the skin. Which it barely broke. No scar, and the bullet was encapulated. Distance and shooter unknown.
The idea that the only good bear is a dead bear is still alive and well in some parts. People just don't talk about it much anymore. How do you tell the farmer with cattle, the guy with kids and a bear in his yard, the bee keeper, the outfitter with torn up equipment, or the friends of any of those people that your enlightenment should dictate his actions? You can try, but if you look closely he's rolling his eyes while nodding and agreeing with you.
The idea that the only good bear is a dead bear is still alive and well in some parts. People just don't talk about it much anymore. How do you tell the farmer with cattle, the guy with kids and a bear in his yard, the bee keeper, the outfitter with torn up equipment, or the friends of any of those people that your enlightenment should dictate his actions? You can try, but if you look closely he's rolling his eyes while nodding and agreeing with you.
A BC sheep guide I know was only charged by a grizz once in 15 years of guiding. One shot from his 30-30 and the bear veered off into the bush and they proceeded on their way. The model 94 is compact and easy to carry in a scabbard (no scope) and he says he only needed it once in 15 years.
3 summers ago had a full sized male black bear charge at me from about 30 ft. Had a 12 gauge with slugs in hand, damn glad I did.
Ran straight at me, managed to hit him about halfway (he covered it damn quick obviously). Maybe better men than I think they will get several shots off into its head at that charging speed and distance but I dunno about that ...
Can't imagine having anything smaller in my hand for this. A grizzly is an even scarier proposition.
As far as I'm concerned even just a stroll in bear country you should have something like a 12 gauge ready to go despite what any bull#### law says. When facing down a charging bear you ain't gonna give a #### about the stupidity of our legal system.
Carry something big but something you can handle and quickly whether its a 12 ga., rifle or pistol. I agree there is a cut off point where its too big/too powerful and works against you.
Ran straight at me, managed to hit him about halfway (he covered it damn quick obviously). Maybe better men than I think they will get several shots off into its head at that charging speed and distance but I dunno about that ...
Can't imagine having anything smaller in my hand for this. A grizzly is an even scarier proposition.
As far as I'm concerned even just a stroll in bear country you should have something like a 12 gauge ready to go despite what any bull#### law says. When facing down a charging bear you ain't gonna give a #### about the stupidity of our legal system.
Carry something big but something you can handle and quickly whether its a 12 ga., rifle or pistol. I agree there is a cut off point where its too big/too powerful and works against you.
Was it a HEART shot orRJ
they didn't hang around to find out.
Do the bears a favour, and make sure they can't get yummy bacon and whatnot from your camp. If they don't get rewarded for raiding campsites, they won't need shooting to stop them doing it. Just keep a clean secure camp.
The modern granola munching twit-hippies have good rules for clean camps that keep bear encounters in camp to a minimum. I've never had a camp bear encounter, for instance, and I've spent a lot of nights in the bush, with and without a gun.
Bear encounters on the move happen when they happen, though.
The modern granola munching twit-hippies have good rules for clean camps that keep bear encounters in camp to a minimum. I've never had a camp bear encounter, for instance, and I've spent a lot of nights in the bush, with and without a gun.
Bear encounters on the move happen when they happen, though.
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This one makes me smile. Yes, its a good idea not to camp beside your bait or on a bait trail.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I'm not comfortable with wounding a bear with no follow up, but Pounder puts in context, "Our primary responsibility is the safety of our client(s), so it doesn't make sense to follow up the blood trail of a wounded bear, while leaving the client unprotected."
Hey, I hunt, and I've hunted bear (never successfully, mind you). Wasting a game animal by habituating it to raiding campsites, forcing a CO to shoot the problem bear... That's just plain dumb.
Keep a clean camp, and put your food and garbage away so yogi can't get at it. If the bear gets all grief and no joy for raiding campsites, it won't become a problem bear.
Conservation is a part of hunting.
I know you get that. You're a well respected and well known guy.
Keep a clean camp, and put your food and garbage away so yogi can't get at it. If the bear gets all grief and no joy for raiding campsites, it won't become a problem bear.
Conservation is a part of hunting.
I know you get that. You're a well respected and well known guy.
This one makes me smile. Yes, its a good idea not to camp beside your bait or on a bait trail.
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No disrespect meant, it was the granola muching twit-hippy part I got a kick out of. I fully agree with everything you say. A fed bear is a dead bear, and a bear killed by DNR is one less to be enjoyed by hunter and hippy alike.
at work wen doing bears a shot in the air is all it takes most time
the bear fence is one of the handies peac of kit a guy can have for working or hunting check out Margo Supples http://margosupplies.com/public/
they carry bear banger to rubber slugs and fences
the bear fence is one of the handies peac of kit a guy can have for working or hunting check out Margo Supples http://margosupplies.com/public/
they carry bear banger to rubber slugs and fences
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Like I said, I know you get it. And no offense or disrespect taken by me, or meant on my part, either. I wanted to clarify for the guys who think being safe from bears is good enough. The bears also need to be safe from *us*.
Safe for "maybe next spring", in my case!
And no offense or disrespect taken by me, or meant on my part, either. I wanted to clarify for the guys who think being safe from bears is good enough. The bears also need to be safe from *us*.Safe for "maybe next spring", in my case!
