What general purpose rifle was the most accurate?
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The Swedish Mauser would be my pick also.
I figure I'll chime in here, I need to rant a little bit.
Mag30th on youtube is a very gifted shooter with damn near any rifle.
I noticed on the first page a few misguided comments like" that's not very impressive he has 3 guys telling him where the bullet struck".
So by that way of thinking sniper teams aren't great shooters because they are always a team consisting of a shooter and a spotter and they use high powered optics and fancy modern rifles in flat shooting g calibers
. Oh and also Palma/DCRA TR rifle shooters are terrible to because they have a spotting scope and a person marking their hits with a marking disk. And they use mettalic sights that are as precise as any high dollar scope not using Kentucky windage and a leaf sight like the shooter in the video.
Mag30th is shooting an as issued rifle with standard leaf sights. Think at that range the front sight is probably 5 moa or more, a simple 1 moa extra of hold for the wind translates to a near hair of holdover with the front sight, REMEMBER he can't just dial windage like on a modern scope he's holding for wind and guessing his hold because HE CAN'T SEE WHERE THE BULLET STRIKES!!
Rant over!!
Now as for accurate rifles my list is as follows:
Ross mk3 as my best 100 yard groups are submoa with my average being moa.
P14, again super accurate.
K31 for the above reasons mentioned. Good trigger and they drive nails.
Swede mauser cause they all seem to shoot.
Mag30th on youtube is a very gifted shooter with damn near any rifle.
I noticed on the first page a few misguided comments like" that's not very impressive he has 3 guys telling him where the bullet struck".
So by that way of thinking sniper teams aren't great shooters because they are always a team consisting of a shooter and a spotter and they use high powered optics and fancy modern rifles in flat shooting g calibers
. Oh and also Palma/DCRA TR rifle shooters are terrible to because they have a spotting scope and a person marking their hits with a marking disk. And they use mettalic sights that are as precise as any high dollar scope not using Kentucky windage and a leaf sight like the shooter in the video.
Mag30th is shooting an as issued rifle with standard leaf sights. Think at that range the front sight is probably 5 moa or more, a simple 1 moa extra of hold for the wind translates to a near hair of holdover with the front sight, REMEMBER he can't just dial windage like on a modern scope he's holding for wind and guessing his hold because HE CAN'T SEE WHERE THE BULLET STRIKES!!
Rant over!!
Now as for accurate rifles my list is as follows:
Ross mk3 as my best 100 yard groups are submoa with my average being moa.
P14, again super accurate.
K31 for the above reasons mentioned. Good trigger and they drive nails.
Swede mauser cause they all seem to shoot.
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The width of the front sight of a rifle is an issue much overlooked by the guys who shoot nothing but scoped rifles.
Front sight on an M-1 Garand, for example, subtends 4MOA. It covers 4 inches of target at 100 yards, FORTY inches at 1,000.
That gallon milk jug is perhaps a sixth of that width.
Playing with a 7.62 Number 4 with PH sights one afternoon, I was happy enough to put 5 into 2-1/2 inches at 300, using DA 61 ammo, and twice as happy when my handloads came up to the standard. This was on the open range at Wolverine, standard gusting Manitoba crosswind provided free of charge.
IIRC the targets we used to shoot at long range in the DCRA game called for a 24-inch bull at 1000.
That is plenty small ENOUGH with iron sights at better than half a mile.
I invite all the guys who "know everything" to give it a try some time.
Front sight on an M-1 Garand, for example, subtends 4MOA. It covers 4 inches of target at 100 yards, FORTY inches at 1,000.
That gallon milk jug is perhaps a sixth of that width.
Playing with a 7.62 Number 4 with PH sights one afternoon, I was happy enough to put 5 into 2-1/2 inches at 300, using DA 61 ammo, and twice as happy when my handloads came up to the standard. This was on the open range at Wolverine, standard gusting Manitoba crosswind provided free of charge.
IIRC the targets we used to shoot at long range in the DCRA game called for a 24-inch bull at 1000.
That is plenty small ENOUGH with iron sights at better than half a mile.
I invite all the guys who "know everything" to give it a try some time.
Well said friend!!
