HeliMD
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Would love a .460 S&w leaver or pump action rifle. I know there is a leaver on the market already but more options the better.
A levergun is not just a nostalgia item; it's a superfast manual repeater for those of us...and we do exist!...who don't need or necessarily want a semiauto. The ability to quickly load or unload by means of a detachable box magazine just adds to the utility.
A Ruger PC9 is an outstanding 100-yards-and-in pest gun to keep handy with a fully loaded mag ready to pop in when a coyote shows up in the barnyard. But a Henry lever-action detach-box-mag in 9mm would replace it in a heartbeat, for me. More than fast enough for a second or third shot if I need or want it, but not chambered and cocked until I need or want it.
A pump would be just as nice, but as mentioned above, it might complicate the takedown feature and it would be a shame not to have that as well.
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How is that different than a PC9? Just leave the chamber empty, then rack the bolt to #### and chamber when you need it. Same as the lever.
Second or subsequent shots. With a lever, I can delay cycling the lever after my first shot, or even drop the lever and mag and be unloaded without ever chambering a second cartridge. I like that. It's also safer for a child or new shooter than letting them use a semiauto.
Mostly a personal preference thing. For most purposes, I just don't care for a semi-auto. Mind you, I still prefer driving a manual transmission too, so...
No action is any less safer, with the proper training. All require finger off the trigger, until ready to shoot. Also you can control how many rounds you can put in a mag. IE 1. Most people when letting a new shooter shoot, will only load one round, no matter the action. And also it is your responsibility to watch these people when shooting.
Thanks, dad. For myself, I simply prefer finger off the trigger and empty chamber if I wish. For new shooters, I watch like a hawk...but proper training includes eventually working up to multiple shots in the gun, and the slower pace of shooting/ejecting/re-chambering that is possible with a lever is preferable IMHO.
Repeating the same old stuff that "everyone"says is great, but thinking it through and understanding why it's safe...and how it might be even safer...seems worthwhile as well. The lever just adds another intermediate step between single-shot loading and full-mag-semi-auto...sort of "slow-semi-auto".
Sorry to Henry Arms for the derail.
Okay Grandpa. Safest firearm is the one pointed in a safe directions at all time. Cannot get any safer than that. Semi autos don't have to be shot fast, and can be shot slowly.
Well a lever isn't and cannot be a semi auto. Because it doesn't use the gas of the fired round to cycle the action, to chamber the next round. Word your are thinking of, is repeater.
Most of the people suggesting magazine are for rifle calibers, so it would be like the BLR, or the Savage 99, or the Ruger 96/44. I'm not against magazines. If they could be made that it was flush, it would look okay. I'm talking about the question about Glock mags, or pistol mags. But to suggest a Glock mag, is like putting spinner hubcaps on a Model T. I just couldn't see a respectful company that makes nice lever actions, have a plastic Glock mag hanging from it. To me its sacrilegious.
Also some places you cannot hunt small game with anything more than say .275 ( Believe in Ontario ) So having a 9mm would be illegal, and who would use one for bears?
Okay Grandpa. Safest firearm is the one pointed in a safe directions at all time. Cannot get any safer than that. Semi autos don't have to be shot fast, and can be shot slowly.
Well a lever isn't and cannot be a semi auto. Because it doesn't use the gas of the fired round to cycle the action, to chamber the next round. Word your are thinking of, is repeater.
A levergun is not just a nostalgia item; it's a superfast manual repeater for those of us...and we do exist!...who don't need or necessarily want a semiauto. The ability to quickly load or unload by means of a detachable box magazine just adds to the utility.
A Ruger PC9 is an outstanding 100-yards-and-in pest gun to keep handy with a fully loaded mag ready to pop in when a coyote shows up in the barnyard. But a Henry lever-action detach-box-mag in 9mm would replace it in a heartbeat, for me. More than fast enough for a second or third shot if I need or want it, but not chambered and cocked until I need or want it.
A pump would be just as nice, but as mentioned above, it might complicate the takedown feature and it would be a shame not to have that as well.
Second or subsequent shots. With a lever, I can delay cycling the lever after my first shot, or even drop the lever and mag and be unloaded without ever chambering a second cartridge. I like that. It's also safer for a child or new shooter than letting them use a semiauto.
Mostly a personal preference thing. For most purposes, I just don't care for a semi-auto. Mind you, I still prefer driving a manual transmission too, so...