What happened to all the RFB threads?

I can get thermold's at the LGS for $35ish each... A ridiculous price but better than the $50+ metal mags I've seen some site vendors selling, I just hope they work well...

As for ammo I'm setup on my XL650 for .308, probably just feed it a few boxes of factory 150's to get the hang of setting the gas system then just a constant diet of 168 Amax's for the range and some Interlocks for hunting season... I have high hopes the RFB is easier on my brass than my M14... If not it'll be on the EE in short order.


Mine was very nice to brass and best of all it's always in a nice pile right in front of you.
 
Tavor specs

3.27 kg (7.21 lb)(TAR-21)[1]
3.18 kg (7.0 lb)(CTAR-21)[1]
3.67 kg (8.1 lb)(STAR-21)
2.95 kg (6.5 lb)(MTAR-21)[1]
3.19 kg (7.0 lb)(TC-21)


RFB

8.1 lb (3.7 kg) w. 18 in (460 mm) barrel (Carbine),
8.7 lb (3.9 kg) w. 24 in (610 mm) barrel (Sporter),
11.3 lb (5.1 kg) w. 32 in (810 mm) barrel (Target)
 
Updated my first post.... That comp works excellent! No blowback from the muzzle at all :)


Bit loud tho but it's not nearly as bad as a flash hider or brake.
 
What is your LGS? I want more mags for mine.

I actually like the Thermold mags as well.

Also don't be afraid to use steel cased ammo. Mine really likes the Hornady Steel Match.
 
What is your LGS? I want more mags for mine.

I actually like the Thermold mags as well.

Also don't be afraid to use steel cased ammo. Mine really likes the Hornady Steel Match.


Barton's Big Country in GP
....well... It's kinda local :)

Nobody around here has steel cased .308... I've been lookin :)
 
With the Canadian dollar tanking, anybody thinking of buying one better do it soon, as you can count on new stock costing an extra 2-3 bills if not more.
 
With the Canadian dollar tanking, anybody thinking of buying one better do it soon, as you can count on new stock costing an extra 2-3 bills if not more.


There is a vendor here selling them for $2350 still I believe... But yes the price of everything is going up a fair bit.
 
Minime you really need to clean out your PM box :p


The mount is a Leupold mk2 cantilever, wish I could of found an ADM QD but I'm thankful Barton's had this "cheap" one on the shelf.

If you were going to use standard rings your probably just get away with some xtra tall ones... But the cantilever is a more secure mount IMHO at this height.
 
24" barrel is not needed IMO, accuracy is not any better, and making a bullpup longer defeats the purpose



Accuracy gain between the 2 would indeed be negligible but the velocity gain could be substantial enough to make it worth the extra length for some.... And the farther the end of the muzzle is away from your ears the better if your hunting with one of these things!
Even with the linear comp I limit myself to a couple shots when I'm in the woods with it... It will make your ear ring on the opposite side you shoulder from.
 
And the farther the end of the muzzle is away from your ears the better if your hunting with one of these things!
Even with the linear comp I limit myself to a couple shots when I'm in the woods with it... It will make your ear ring on the opposite side you shoulder from.
If those are your worries why even consider a bullpup? The whole point of it is to have it as compact as possible.
 
If those are your worries why even consider a bullpup? The whole point of it is to have it as compact as possible.



Because I actually shoot my rifles not just fondle em on the couch waiting for COD to load the next map :)


6" more tube would make it "less" compact but when you compare it to a regular length hunting rifle and see that even if it was 6" longer it would still be close to 12" shorter than something like my aught-6 with a 24" tube...


 
Accuracy gain between the 2 would indeed be negligible but the velocity gain could be substantial enough to make it worth the extra length for some.... And the farther the end of the muzzle is away from your ears the better if your hunting with one of these things!
Even with the linear comp I limit myself to a couple shots when I'm in the woods with it... It will make your ear ring on the opposite side you shoulder from.

I spoke to Kel-Tec directly and was told it is the exact same barrel, just cut longer. The increase in velocity would not be enough to worry about since the best accuracy you're going to see is 1.5moa if you handload which is the best I was able to get after trying a lot of powders pushing projectiles from 110gr V-max up to 165gr SST's. You're not going to be shooting this rifle at animals at long range from field shooting positions. It's not a great rifle for bipod's, it shines in it's strengths which are being compact and easy to shoulder and fire while standing which limits it's practical hunting range to around 200 yards where a couple hundred feet per second more velocity isn't going to make any difference.
Being a little louder? I used to shoot mine without hearing protection (only hunting) and it wasn't bad, it's not like you should need more than one or two shots on a deer at under 200 yards. Why would you put a muzzle device on one of these? When the gas system is set correctly the recoil is very smooth so a brake is not needed at all and all a linear would do is add weight to the muzzle.
If you want to hunt long range on the plains then use a bolt gun, if you want to hunt the bush where you're probably not going to shoot more than 100 yards then the RFB is perfect.
 
Not an accurate platform too much slop in the drywall screws

Lol, they are actually very well built, these are nothing like a sub2000, I've owned an RFB, a KSG, and a sub2000 and the sub2000 feels like it was built in a different factory by a different company. I was very impressed with my RFB and KSG, both were very well built and very reliable.
I was able to get pretty regular 1.5moa groups from my RFB shooting off the bench with a couple different handloads, in the field I'm sure that would turn into 3-4 moa at best leaning on a tree or stump shooting at an animal.
The problem with the design in regards to accuracy is that the barrel is the spine of the rifle and everything is attached to it which will mess with barrel harmonics.

The RFB is just like any other battle rifle design, they are built to be reliable and be able to make center of mass hits at a couple hundred yards, these were never designed to be a DMR and adding a few inches to the muzzle doesn't change that.
It's a great rifle if you don't expect it to be someting it was never designed to be and if you take advantage of it's strengths, like it's compactness and ability to launch 30 cal projectiles quickly and fairly accurately.
 
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