What HVA is this?

[MD]

Buddy dropped by today to pick me up to go to the gun show and dropped this off for me to play with indefinitely on semi-permanent loan.

It's a Husqvarana 1600 series in 7x57 with Kesselring see-through bases and a 2 1/2 power Kollmorgen scope.

Serial number in the 185,000 range. What year is it?

Is it a 1640?

He says it is very finicky what it shoots as it has a 1-14 twist and a long throat. He has a recipe for handloads that make it shoot cloverleafs, he says, but it requires particularly long 140 grain bullets.

Does anyone else have one of these?

 

[Woodbeef]

Buddy dropped by today to pick me up to go to the gun show and dropped this off for me to play with indefinitely on semi-permanent loan.

It's a Husqvarana 1600 series in 7x57 with Kesselring see-through bases and a 2 1/2 power Kollmorgen scope.

Serial number in the 185,000 range. What year is it?

Is it a 1640?

He says it is very finicky what it shoots as it has a 1-14 twist and a long throat. He has a recipe for handloads that make it shoot cloverleafs, he says, but it requires particularly long 140 grain bullets.

Does anyone else have one of these?

It was made in 1955. To know what model it is a picture of the whole gun would be better for indentification. How long is the barrel?

 

[MD]

22-inch barrel.

 

[zywina]

If he is ever interested in selling the rings/mounts or scope give me a shout , those are very good quality and I likes thems dzywina@yahoo.ca thanks Dale in T-Bay

 

[Why not?]

22-inch barrel.

You sure about that. I have owned five of them and they all were 20 1/2 inches, models 4000, 4100 and 456.

Ted

 

[MD]

Oh, it is 20 1/2 inches.

It is a 1955 4100. I have an old copy of Wahl's Gun Trader's guide.

I'd sure like to know others' experiences shooting these rifles.

 

[huntingfamily]

That is the 1600 action.
Classic rifle in a classic calibre.
Enjoy!

hf

 

[Baribal]

If it's a 7X57, there are a lot of chances it's a 4100.

An easy way to make it out; If it does not have checkering at the fore end and no cheek piece, then, it's not a 4100 but the European model (the 1600 Std), wich, sometimes have the cheek piece but still no checkering at fore end. But the 7X57 is an almost unknown chambering for European HVA rifles (the Swedes considered their 6.5X55 to be far superior) and is more than likely an otrignal Tradewinds / Ruko import...

We use "1640" as a generic name for the action, but, in fact we should refer it to "HVA 1953 Improved Mauser", because 1640 a model number was for the 600mm barrel (23.622") and 1600 for the 520mm (20.47") barreled models.
There is, actually, a 22 inches (560mm) barrel version, made for Tradewinds, and called the Husky (H-5000) and this version is considered a "1640" variation.

 

[Noel]

Buddy dropped by today to pick me up to go to the gun show and dropped this off for me to play with indefinitely on semi-permanent loan.

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Congrats on the loaner! You best be very kind to that friend.

 

[Baribal]

Don't be jealous, Noel...

Here's a pic to show the difference between a "commercial" and a military configuration. Note that both action saw "civilian" use only, none saqw military use.

Below a model 46 and a model 649 - both on a M/94 (well, the 649 (solid wall, "commercial") is a M/38 since HVA never made M/94 rifles).

 

[MD]

Found this great article about the rifle.

I also have a 1953 Husqvarna 270 in with the FN 98 action. Also a gift. I have great friends.


http://www.rifleshootermag.com/featured_rifles/RS_sportingmauser_200806/index.html

 

[Noel]

Don't worry Baribal, not jealous at all, real happy it found a good home!
I sure like that old scope and mount on there to finish off that "period" look. A great rifle like that doesn't come around like they used to.

Thanks for posting those receiver pics, first I have seen that difference. I imagine that helped beef up the receiver?

 

[Baribal]

I was just kidding, of course, knowing your interest about those little buggers..

Well, in case of front receiver failure, the action will therically bend less from the rear... not sure it will stop the bolt rear motion as well as when the thumb notch is there... and I don't want to try...

Well, another one, from the top of the actions;

- You can see the cocking piece does not have the "catch" on the 649
- You can see the barrel is not the same; the 640's are sleeved
- The finish of the receiver of the M/46's is more "superficial", less dark blue than on the M/649
- The side rail, or solid wall, of the M/649 is "raised", providing more material to "solidify" the action

Here's another one, showing two different "commercial actions" M/640's;

The top one is a M/640 on a M/38 small ring, the second one is a "commercial" post '49 FN M/98, both with "solid walls".