What i rolling under recoil?
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ultimate_monkey
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The only time I've ever heard that saying is with old cannons ..
Unless your talking about shooting with free recoil as opposed to a "hard hold"
Unless your talking about shooting with free recoil as opposed to a "hard hold"
So free recoil could be actually lifting the stock a bit as opposed to barrel lift?
Just heard someone say something about groups side to side spread.
My 6.5X.284 seems to recoil to the right just a bit. Nice groups till that fifth shot, it wanders bout 1/2" to the left or right.
I have tried preloading my bipod thinking it was jumping. Or prob just too tense trying to place that last shot would be my geuss
Just heard someone say something about groups side to side spread.
My 6.5X.284 seems to recoil to the right just a bit. Nice groups till that fifth shot, it wanders bout 1/2" to the left or right.
I have tried preloading my bipod thinking it was jumping. Or prob just too tense trying to place that last shot would be my geuss
ultimate_monkey
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I know rolling under recoil as the old cannons that were allowed to role back a bit when fired . Free recoil in shooting is allowing the rifle to slide back under recoil, a lot of BR shooters shoot this way, line up the shot and the only thing touching the rifle is their trigger finger , you tube would give good examples of this .
I can't say I've ever heard of rolling under recoil in terms of shooting a rifle . Sorry!
Shibby , what your referring to would just generally be called torque twist I suppose , But I can't say ever notice my rifles twisting when fired .. It may be more of a technique "issue". If its effecting your accuracy
I can't say I've ever heard of rolling under recoil in terms of shooting a rifle . Sorry!
Shibby , what your referring to would just generally be called torque twist I suppose , But I can't say ever notice my rifles twisting when fired .. It may be more of a technique "issue". If its effecting your accuracy
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I think if someone suggested this to you , they are trying to say let your bodyweight absorb more of the recoil as opposed to muscle strength , keep your rifle tight against your shoulder but don't lock it in there with your arm muscles. As long as there is good contact between you and the stock you should be fine . When you shoot let your body move with the recoil (let it push your shoulder back rather than tensing your back/ chest and core muscles to minimise movement ). these might help you figure out some of the physiological effects your body has on shot placement. for rifle
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Rolling under recoil may refer to what is called the artillery hold. Guys that shoot spring air guns a lot know what this is. It's a loose hold where you allow the gun to recoil consistently when you shoot, as opposed to holding it hard/firm/rigid. Most rifles will shoot better groups if fired from a bag and allowed to recoil as opposed to being strapped into a lead sled where they cannot move.
Rolling under recoil may refer to what is called the artillery hold. Guys that shoot spring air guns a lot know what this is. It's a loose hold where you allow the gun to recoil consistently when you shoot, as opposed to holding it hard/firm/rigid. Most rifles will shoot better groups if fired from a bag and allowed to recoil as opposed to being strapped into a lead sled where they cannot move.
"Rolling under recoil" as I have heard it said, means an inconsistant form of holding the rifle from one shot to the next. If often happens with those that shoot the first shot, realize the recoil is more or less than anticipated, and then hold the gun different: they may "choke" the gun by holding it hard and bracing like crazy, and then changing the grip to very loose and letting the body go limp. I have heard it on the skeet and trap ranges occassionally; usually due to a shooter putting too many rounds in, getting a bruised/tender shoulder and then their shooting changes as they try to compensate: they start to "roll under recoil."
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Ditto. I've never found them to be helpful or truthful for the kind of shooting I do (F-Class, and also iron sight sling shooting using a round aperture front sight). For example, if I flinch or jerk the trigger (still working on this after oh so many years...!), the shot might go anywhere; it doesn't usually end up at 4:30.
Note that I am not saying that these charts are not useful for other kinds of shooting, maybe they are (for example, rifle shooting with a a sling and iron sights using post front sight; or bullseye pistol shooting).
(I also find published "wind roses" and wind flag diagrams to be overly complicated and not particularly enlightening and I think there is a much better approach to that, but that's a different subject).
