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yes, what is it? an SKS crossed with an AK that's DNA is mostly SKS but looks like an AK? 
too many damned Types involved.
too many damned Types involved.
what is a Type 81?
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Well it's not even close to an SKS, bolt handle resembles an sks but thats about it.
Read this to find out what it is.....
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...ghkMBI&usg=AFQjCNFLaCpNQs97IghDCxEnpc6kmIOInw
Read this to find out what it is.....
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...ghkMBI&usg=AFQjCNFLaCpNQs97IghDCxEnpc6kmIOInw
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thanks bub!
I look forward to seeing the 81's with RPK lipstick!
is the 81 inherently more accurate than the SKS?
I look forward to seeing the 81's with RPK lipstick!
is the 81 inherently more accurate than the SKS?
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ouch...
yes, what is it? an SKS crossed with an AK that's DNA is mostly SKS but looks like an AK?
too many damned Types involved.
It feels like a modified SKS that supposed to take as much good features from AK as possible. It is not SKS per se. Let's say, son or daughter of SKS and AK. Even mag is based on SKS mag, but with AK features.
However, you cannot really compare this to standard SKS that sells for about $250. You may modify SKS to the T81 level, but by the time you do it, you will be at T81 price and missing some other features.
Think about this way, VZ58 is the offspring of SKS rather than of VZ52/57. If you try to compare all 3, you will see more similarities between VZ58 and SKS, but not with VZ52/57.
Anyway, here is a disassembly of T81: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c09qZWYQd4
You will notice that return spring is an AK style, but SKS is not that different anyway. Bolt body is SKS type, while bolt itself is AK type. Safety is SKS type. Trigger mechanism is SKS type. Receiver is stamped like AK, but fixed by heavy trunions. Piston is similar to Dragunov (which is not SKS), but it similar to SKS, except instead of piston + piston extension it uses one piece piston and extension. Both T81 and SKS have spring, but T81 has it outside of the sight housing, while SKS has it inside. However, this may differ due to the fact that receiver is not milled on T81, so you have to keep it outside of trunion. Mag is very close to the detachable SKS mag, but without front locking extension.
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The Type 81 is the Chinese evolution of firearms design based on their experience with the SKS and AK platforms. The Chinese utilized the SKS as their main battle rifle, while issuing the AK in a similar fashion as to how western doctrine would view a submachine gun.
From their experiences and preferences between the two, the Chinese delved into their Type 63 project (also called a Type 68 by westerners). The Type 63 shares the rotating bolt and short stroke piston concepts as the later Type 81. It even uses the same magazine as later adopted by the 81 with a bolt hold open feature. The Type 63 laid the ground work but wasn't completely adopted.
The Chinese then went on to trial the Type 66-136 rifle. This rifle looked more similar to the later Type 81 but wasn't widely accepted for a variety of reasons.
The Type 81 was developed after the Chinese suffered miserably against the Vietnamese in 79 during the first Sino-viet conflict/war. The Vietnamese fielded their AKs more commonly among their troops while the Chinese were using the SKS for most front line infantry while the AK was left for officers and other troops again like a SMG would be in the west. The Vietnamese had an obvious firepower advantage with the dominance of the AK. The chinese felt the AK didn't have the accuracy they required for full front line deployment, and sought to improve in that department with the Type 81 project.
When they arrive it will be interesting to see if they succeeded or if their claims are propoganda.
In reality, it is the great grandchild of the marriage of an sks and ak.
SKS + AK 》Type 63 》Type 66-136 》Type 81
From their experiences and preferences between the two, the Chinese delved into their Type 63 project (also called a Type 68 by westerners). The Type 63 shares the rotating bolt and short stroke piston concepts as the later Type 81. It even uses the same magazine as later adopted by the 81 with a bolt hold open feature. The Type 63 laid the ground work but wasn't completely adopted.
The Chinese then went on to trial the Type 66-136 rifle. This rifle looked more similar to the later Type 81 but wasn't widely accepted for a variety of reasons.
The Type 81 was developed after the Chinese suffered miserably against the Vietnamese in 79 during the first Sino-viet conflict/war. The Vietnamese fielded their AKs more commonly among their troops while the Chinese were using the SKS for most front line infantry while the AK was left for officers and other troops again like a SMG would be in the west. The Vietnamese had an obvious firepower advantage with the dominance of the AK. The chinese felt the AK didn't have the accuracy they required for full front line deployment, and sought to improve in that department with the Type 81 project.
When they arrive it will be interesting to see if they succeeded or if their claims are propoganda.
In reality, it is the great grandchild of the marriage of an sks and ak.
SKS + AK 》Type 63 》Type 66-136 》Type 81
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kto, fence, thank you for that.
has the Type 81 proved itself to be more accurate than the SKS?
and what is it's weight like in comparison to the SKS? watching that TFB video, it seemed rather light by the way he was handling it.
has the Type 81 proved itself to be more accurate than the SKS?
and what is it's weight like in comparison to the SKS? watching that TFB video, it seemed rather light by the way he was handling it.
kto, fence, thank you for that.
has the Type 81 proved itself to be more accurate than the SKS?
and what is it's weight like in comparison to the SKS? watching that TFB video, it seemed rather light by the way he was handling it.
No clue on accuracy. Probably the same as SKS. You have to remember that when Chinese mention accuracy, they consider full auto AK to full auto T81. In Canada this doesn't matter. I would expect that weight will be a little bit lighter than SKS for 2 reasons: stamped receiver and no wooden stock. However, I would not expect it to be way too different.
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all your questions and more have been answered in painfull detail in the other type 81 threads
how many threads do we need on the type 81?
well one less for now.
how many threads do we need on the type 81?
well one less for now.
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