What is considered a good group with a rimfire pistol?

your buckmark will shoot 2 inches or better with ammo it likes at 25 yards all day long. Set your sights for a 6 oclock hold on the bottom of the black. that way you can have a consistent sight picture without trying to line the front sight up in the center of the black. (stand the whole black circle on the top of the blade like a lolipop). Just adjust your rear sight so when you hold like this, the point of impact is in the x ring. Then start practicing. As mentioned, keep the front sight sharp in your vision, and don't worry if the target blurs out a bit.
 
How good are you with any other handgun at 25? The Buckmark is a fine shooting gun with average or better accuracy. So whatever you shoot with it will be YOU that is the limit and not the gun. I've only ever run across a few rimfire guns that would not shoot better than I could hold. And those were very low end, low cost guns in their day that I brought home with me because I've got this thing for poor lost puppys.

Sight picture when shooting for bullseye style shooting counts for a lot. Most that shoot this style on a regular basis deliberately adjust the sights to use a 6 o'clock hold on a standard target so the standard size black ball in the middle just perches on the front blade. And when shot with the specific ammo at that specific target at that specific distance the gun is supposed to put them all in the 10 ring or the "X".... sadly the "walking and talking Ransom rest" that holds the guns are seldom up to par..... :D
 
BCRider said:
How good are you with any other handgun at 25? The Buckmark is a fine shooting gun with average or better accuracy. So whatever you shoot with it will be YOU that is the limit and not the gun. I've only ever run across a few rimfire guns that would not shoot better than I could hold. And those were very low end, low cost guns in their day that I brought home with me because I've got this thing for poor lost puppys.

Sight picture when shooting for bullseye style shooting counts for a lot. Most that shoot this style on a regular basis deliberately adjust the sights to use a 6 o'clock hold on a standard target so the standard size black ball in the middle just perches on the front blade. And when shot with the specific ammo at that specific target at that specific distance the gun is supposed to put them all in the 10 ring or the "X".... sadly the "walking and talking Ransom rest" that holds the guns are seldom up to par..... :D
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This is my first personal handgun so I am just trying to figure out what to aspire to. I used to be in the military and had a 9mm handgun with a zillion rounds through it and probably had 30 owners; it was a rough piece of equipment. It would seem to me that getting 2 inch groups at 25 yards would be a good goal. I am really a rifle shooter, so this is a whole new experience.
 
In what used to be ISU Bullseye..using those targets at 25m, we would regularly shoot scores 95 and up with stock Mk11's and Buckmarks. 100's were rare but not unheard of. I used to shoot mid 90's with a stock CZ75..have some 98s and 99s with a PPC ready 586.

Those numbers aside, these days recreational shooting with Mp22 and GSG .22s I don't shoot numbers anywhere near that. The fist sized or palm sized groups sound like good shooting. Look for the improvement in the groups more than the size!
 
This really helps, ive been trying to get them all in the 10 ring without a rest, or a bag or anything. I have those targets. Ill focus on some front sight and be happy with the black, then work my way in. I ve been getting frustrated.
 
OK, for standing free style here. Not from benched or otherwise supported.

In my experience and from seeing a lot of pretty good shooters performing at out to 25 if you can get 2 inch groups you should ask to be on some sort of Canadian shooting team. The folks I've seen that can shoot well get roughly 3 to 3.5 inch groups at 25. And those are rare. I know of only one fellow out of the couple of hundred folks that I've seen shooting that can manage to get 2.5 inch groups with his match Browning at that distance. He says he used to do better when he was younger and shot in bullseye leagues that many clubs had at the time. But that was then and this was now and he was pretty OK with the damage done by getting older. And he's the best I've seen for freestyle.

I've managed such a group but only very rarely. My best CONSISTENT 20 yard groups are more like 3 inches. So I figure that when I get one which is quite a bit smaller it's a case of all my "errors" went towards the center that time. Oh sure, I still gloat about it over coffee later on after the session but we all know I can't do it on command.

Now we'll see lots claiming 2 inches at 25. But in my experience we're talking 1 in 100 or more handgun shooters that can do that consistently.
 
rockyh said:
How do you guys do it ? Can you see a 2 inch object at 25 yards ?
I have Browning 1911 22 LR, and get nowhere close to 2 inch.
I have glasses that are proper but cannot see and aim such a small object at 25 yards.
Can you see small objects that far or you use some other technique.
Any suggestions for me are appreciated.
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It's not that hard when shooting at golf balls.
 
BCRider said:
OK, for standing free style here. Not from benched or otherwise supported.

In my experience and from seeing a lot of pretty good shooters performing at out to 25 if you can get 2 inch groups you should ask to be on some sort of Canadian shooting team. The folks I've seen that can shoot well get roughly 3 to 3.5 inch groups at 25. And those are rare. I know of only one fellow out of the couple of hundred folks that I've seen shooting that can manage to get 2.5 inch groups with his match Browning at that distance. He says he used to do better when he was younger and shot in bullseye leagues that many clubs had at the time. But that was then and this was now and he was pretty OK with the damage done by getting older. And he's the best I've seen for freestyle.

I've managed such a group but only very rarely. My best CONSISTENT 20 yard groups are more like 3 inches. So I figure that when I get one which is quite a bit smaller it's a case of all my "errors" went towards the center that time. Oh sure, I still gloat about it over coffee later on after the session but we all know I can't do it on command.

Now we'll see lots claiming 2 inches at 25. But in my experience we're talking 1 in 100 or more handgun shooters that can do that consistently.
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The group I posted above is only 2.24". 2.5" -3.5" is common for me. Its not rare but its not constant I get those groups.
 
Well my 22/45 eats everything groups change with the ammo.

Shot these groups at 15 yards shooting casually, next time I will push to 25 yards as I usually shoot 15 yards pretty fast with my pistols. Not into shooting 50 yards and such thats what my rifles are for. I think of pistols as short range last ditch tools.



Getting close to 60 now so the eyes are not the best using bifocals....

Love my 22/45.
 
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BCRider said:
OK, for standing free style here. Not from benched or otherwise supported.

In my experience and from seeing a lot of pretty good shooters performing at out to 25 if you can get 2 inch groups you should ask to be on some sort of Canadian shooting team. The folks I've seen that can shoot well get roughly 3 to 3.5 inch groups at 25. And those are rare. I know of only one fellow out of the couple of hundred folks that I've seen shooting that can manage to get 2.5 inch groups with his match Browning at that distance. He says he used to do better when he was younger and shot in bullseye leagues that many clubs had at the time. But that was then and this was now and he was pretty OK with the damage done by getting older. And he's the best I've seen for freestyle.

I've managed such a group but only very rarely. My best CONSISTENT 20 yard groups are more like 3 inches. So I figure that when I get one which is quite a bit smaller it's a case of all my "errors" went towards the center that time. Oh sure, I still gloat about it over coffee later on after the session but we all know I can't do it on command.

Now we'll see lots claiming 2 inches at 25. But in my experience we're talking 1 in 100 or more handgun shooters that can do that consistently.
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Thanks, that helps to frame it better. It would be fair to say then three inches would be a good achievable result, and 2 inches a terrific stretch.
 
randyhub said:
Well my 22/45 eats everything groups change with the ammo.

Shot these groups at 15 yards shooting casually, next time I will push to 25 yards as I usually shoot 15 yards pretty fast with my pistols. Not into shooting 50 yards and such thats what my rifles are for. I think of pistols as short range last ditch tools.



Getting close to 60 now so the eyes are not the best using bifocals....

Love my 22/45.
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Yea I love mine. The sight not so much switched to a reddot.

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