What is missing on this rig?

You might find that that scope has adjustments if you look a little bit closer.
The power range dial might move either forward or backward to uncover the windage and elevation adjustment screws. I've seen a couple of these scopes, the adjustment piece inside the tube is just mounted at the back instead of the middle!

Scott
 
m39a2 said:
You might find that that scope has adjustments if you look a little bit closer.
The power range dial might move either forward or backward to uncover the windage and elevation adjustment screws. I've seen a couple of these scopes, the adjustment piece inside the tube is just mounted at the back instead of the middle!

Scott
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You are obviously not aquainted with a Bosch & Lomb, Balvar scope.
 
m39a2 said:
You might find that that scope has adjustments if you look a little bit closer.
The power range dial might move either forward or backward to uncover the windage and elevation adjustment screws. I've seen a couple of these scopes, the adjustment piece inside the tube is just mounted at the back instead of the middle!

Scott
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If I remember my history lessons correct, these scopes only 'adjustments' were their mounts. Somewhere I have a picture of them, and they were spring loaded too, if I remember correct. I confess to never seeing one in person, but they still have a very good reputation even today.
 
I also noticed that. My Dad is the only other guy I know that stands his guns on the barrel. I personally prefer to stand mine on the stock because I'm concerned about the muzzle getting damaged. My Dad says he stands his on the barrel because he doesn't want oil soaking into the stock.
 
Rifles left butt down will drain oil and/or solvent into the action. This can get under action and screw up the bedding and can also gum up a trigger.

I store rifles muzzle down. The muzzles sit on wood or paper towels when standing in corner of shop when being cleaned.
 
If I wanted to use one of those scopes (for some silly reason) I'd take some time and make some effort to track down the proper mounts for it.

The mounts for those scopes had elevation and windage adjustments on them.As it is, it's an old scope with the wrong mounts that has to be shimmed every time you want to change the zero. Heck, duct tape hold stuff together, too.:p

Probably worked okay for the era, but it's much quicker, easier and probably more cost effective to just stick a Leupold on the rifle.
 
Quote: "If I wanted to use one of those scopes (for some silly reason) I'd take some time and make some effort to track down the proper mounts for it.

The mounts for those scopes had elevation and windage adjustments on them.As it is, it's an old scope with the wrong mounts that has to be shimmed every time you want to change the zero. Heck, duct tape hold stuff together, too.

Probably worked okay for the era, but it's much quicker, easier and probably more cost effective to just stick a Leupold on the rifle."

You miss the point. I do have some mounts with the correct external adjutmnets. And I know there are few problems that a bag of money (or a Leupold) won't fix.

I was curious to see if the scope could be mounted in rings with lateral movement and be easily zeroed. The answer is "Yes".

The rifle is well bedded in Devcon, so should not need a major re-zero if same ammo is used. I have not tried, but I suppose I could experiment with difernt bullets to see if I could solve the elevation error without needing the shim - but that would be doing it backwards. I usully choose a suitbable bullet that shoots well, then zero for that.

If a cash strapped hunter has a choice of an old Balvar or a cheap Tasco, my experiment indicates he could try the Balvar in Millet or Leopold rings.

I have a pre-64 Winchester M70 in 338 with a fixed power Balvar scope in adjustable Griffen and Howe mounts. A very solid classic set up. I have never felt any need to replace it with the latest wonder scope.

I think one of the good uses of this forum is to report various experiments. What worked and what did not. The issue of "Why bother?" is fair comment, but don't criticise the experiment or the posting.
 
GANDERITE said:
You miss the point. I do have some mounts with the correct external adjutmnets. And I know there are few problems that a bag of money (or a Leupold) won't fix.
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I didn't miss the point. You wanted to muck around and see if you could make something work. I've done it myself. However, just because it can be done doesn't mean that it is a practical solution to a problem, nor does it mean that there arent' better ways to solve the problem.

The rifle is well bedded in Devcon, so should not need a major re-zero if same ammo is used. I have not tried, but I suppose I could experiment with difernt bullets to see if I could solve the elevation error without needing the shim - but that would be doing it backwards. I usully choose a suitbable bullet that shoots well, then zero for that.
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It *shouldn't* but it *may* need it at some point, and then it's a real PITA to re zero.

If a cash strapped hunter has a choice of an old Balvar or a cheap Tasco, my experiment indicates he could try the Balvar in Millet or Leopold rings.
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Or he could use the time saved by mucking around with shims and work for a few extra hours and be easily able to buy a decent used scope with adjustable turrets...:p


I think one of the good uses of this forum is to report various experiments. What worked and what did not. The issue of "Why bother?" is fair comment, but don't criticise the experiment or the posting.
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Why post up your experiements if you don't want comments or opinions that differ from your own?

Your experiment works, an someone else coudl copy it, sure. But it's hardly a practical approach to installing telescopic sights on a rifle in this day and age of inexpensive but very good quality optics. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's a *bad* idea for the average hunter.
 
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