What is the 'best' non-restricted semi-auto .308?

Law Abiding said:
FNAR is ugly , a PITA to disassemble and mags were also very expensive..


Battle proof??????

but yes more accurate if it' s really needed, it' s the only advantage..
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You cant not choose deliberitly a less accurate rifle for cosmetic advantages or less expensive mags...

When i buy a rifle, it must be extra precise and reliable, the rest i will manage with it at a later time...

It's a bit like saying, i will buy this sportcar with the leather interior but with the smallest engine...

Gimme the strongest engine and the cotton interior... Just my 0.02 cents... JP.
 
caramel said:
You cant not choose deliberitly a less accurate rifle for cosmetic advantages or less expensive mags...

When i buy a rifle, it must be extra precise and reliable, the rest i will manage with it at a later time...

It's a bit like saying, i will buy this sportcar with the leather interior but with the smallest engine...

Gimme the strongest engine and the cotton interior... Just my 0.02 cents... JP.
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sorry m1a is more reliable, and easy to dissemble , nothing to do with your leather interior, I personally prefer a jeep over a sport car, sport car is for showy.
 
Those claiming the RFB is not reliable, what was the issue? Mine was flawless in operation once the gas system was adjusted and with either thermold mags or the DSA metal mags. It got 1moa groups with premium factory loaded ammo and after 3 rounds the group opened to 1.5.
 
cz858lover said:
I am looking to buy a semi-auto in 308. I would like to buy the 'best' available. Money is no issue in my decision, within reason. External looks take a back seat to accuracy, functionality, ability to customize and find aftermarket parts for it among other factors. QUOTE]

I'm pretty much only trying to decide between an LRB-M25, ATRS Modern Hunter and a Rob Arms XCR-M.
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I bought the LRB M14S-M25, and I am very happy with it. While sighting in at 50 yards, I shot cloverleafs over and over. The M25 Receiver with the slots for a Scope Mount simply can't be beat. It's simply the finest rifle I own.
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unlisted.handle said:
cz858lover said:
I am looking to buy a semi-auto in 308. I would like to buy the 'best' available. Money is no issue in my decision, within reason. External looks take a back seat to accuracy, functionality, ability to customize and find aftermarket parts for it among other factors. QUOTE]

I'm pretty much only trying to decide between an LRB-M25, ATRS Modern Hunter and a Rob Arms XCR-M.
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I bought the LRB M14S-M25, and I am very happy with it. While sighting in at 50 yards, I shot cloverleafs over and over. The M25 Receiver with the slots for a Scope Mount simply can't be beat. It's simply the finest rifle I own.
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Do you find it to be reliable and not fussy with ammo and magazines?

What sort of optics did you mount on it?
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Everyone seems to be hating on the LRB fairly hard. is the M14 platform really that outdated? is 'new technology' really that much better then a gun that's been around for 70 some years and is still used in limited rolls within the US military and law enforcement to this day?

That staying power and the test of time on this one I think speaks volumes. Way more then any new guns, despite all the cool looking features. That was the main reason for having the LRB in the list, and fairly high in the list.

Are there any legitimate problems with this rifle that would prevent you from buying it?
 
caramel said:
In this category the FNAR is simply untouchable, they run around 2000.00 can dollars and both of mine were easy sub MOA with a tailored load...

Someone who is craving for accuracy can hardly do better for the same price point with anything else...
Here is my best result ever with one of my FNAR, this is 25 shots consécutives at 100 yards on 5 different targets on the same sheet of paper...

This add for 5 groups all sub .75 MOA... And close to .5 MOA ( never reached that goal with any of my FNAR)...
For one who is looking for an extra precise NR SA rifle just been given serious food for thought...

Many trial and error but at the end these FNAR delivers... JP.

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Very nice.
I'm just getting started developing loads for my FNAR, your groups give me hope.
The factory hunting load groups weren't very impressive.
Varget is my go to powder so good to see it works well in your gun.
 
vrex said:
Very nice.
I'm just getting started developing loads for my FNAR, your groups give me hope.
The factory hunting load groups weren't very impressive.
Varget is my go to powder so good to see it works well in your gun.
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Varget is the best powder for the FNAR, but very close the R-15 and BL-c2 will make good grouping, the FNAR have a long jump to the lands, longer OAL will improved thing a we bit...

Stay with lighter bullets, as the 1 in 12 ROT prefer them...

The Lapua 167 gr were very good to... JP.
 
Is a Springfield M1A National Match a consideration here? The last time I looked they are cheaper than an LRB. I have an M1A Loaded and I love it. It seems to eat any ammo I've run through it and I consistently ring the gongs with open sights. Until the day I scope it I can't say much about MOA accuracy but a Moose, Elk or Deer at 500 yards is dead.
 
mountainlion said:
Is a Springfield M1A National Match a consideration here? The last time I looked they are cheaper than an LRB. I have an M1A Loaded and I love it. It seems to eat any ammo I've run through it and I consistently ring the gongs with open sights. Until the day I scope it I can't say much about MOA accuracy but a Moose, Elk or Deer at 500 yards is dead.
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Springfield M1A, not necessarily NM, but why not if you have the money. I have one, and as what Mountainlion said, it eats everything, reliable, affordable compared to what some of the other rifles that were mentioned. I have had one for several years. Absolutely no issues what so ever! Great accuracy (when I do my part) simple, parts are available, and reliable.

Stay away from the M305s Norico crap!

My 2 cents
 
I'm going to chime in with a few comments....

1st, the LRB M25 is a forged receiver with scope mounting interface part of the original forging. It should not be considered in the same class as a "m-14" pattern rifle IMHO. It is however M-14ish. The receiver is also available in a rear lug configuration.

2nd, those of you "hating" on the Chinese M-305, M-14s, etc in favour of the SAI products need to take another look at what you're talking about. The only thing Springfield does better is the finish on the exterior. I see the exact same problems with the SAI that I see on Chinese rifles. I do see many more Chi-com than SAI, but I have yet to see a new rifle from either manufacturer that was "right" out of the box. The value for the cost difference, just isn't there. A bone stock tuned and trued Chinese rifle will shoot tighter groups than the comparable SAI that has also been tuned. I am talking about GI profile barrels, not the NM or Supermatch.

I have 2 M14 pattern rifles, built off Chinese receivers that are 1.5 MOA capable. Both are full USGI parts kits one is medium weight Kreiger, the other is a medium weight Criterion.

I DO NOT believe a M14 is an inherently accurate platform. You can force it to be so, but the maintenance to keep it there will be time consuming and expensive. All my accurate long range gong ringers are bolt guns. (800y+)

But if hitting a 18" steel plate at 600y is the goal any of the options in the OPs post will do the trick. Heck, a box stock norinco M305 with $500 of work would do it too.

As far as the other firearm platforms discussed go..... I have no opinion. I have very little to no experience with them.

Cheers
 
There are a few I am anticipating: APC 308, MDR 308, K&M M17S308.
Other than that, yet to see and believe that an IWI 308 is going to be satisfactorily accurate.
 
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